It's good that I'll have a year and a half to work it out!

Just out of curiosity, if it's OK to ask - why do you choose to wait that long? If it's not an OK question to ask, then I apologize in advance. [Edit: x-post, of course. Bye, CV!]

It isn't actually an engagement ring

I don't understand this. How can anything other than wearing the ring as an agreement to marry make it an engagement ring?

In a Jewish wedding, the wedding ring has to belong to the groom, and be worth more than a (very small) amount of money. These are internal characteristics of the ring, and if they don't exist, it can't be a wedding ring. But it can be a small plastic glowy thing, for all that matters, and it'll still work.

I'm over any guilt.

So at least there's the one good thing out of it.

Agreed, who cares what the jeweler thinks? It makes ME happy. And screw it, when the wedding band is added, I'll just wear the engagement ring on my right hand!

My ring is also oddly shaped, (the sapphire stone is oval and curves below the line of the band) and one jeweler we went to for bands said that I'd have to switch the engagement ring to the right hand because my ring wouldn't sit right on a band. But lo and behold- the very same jeweler who informed us that my ring was not "TECHNICALLY an engagement ring" had a band that was shaped in a way that perfectly fit and accomodated the scandalous sapphire Not!Engagement ring. Heh.

Cybervixen, congratulations! That's impossibly exciting. Being surprised is still a ton of fun.

sarameg, I'm sorry that things were worse than expected, esp. since you expected things to be bad.

Kitchen confidential! That's exactly where the nerd hole/idiot hole reference was.

Moving to the winter room was tramautic. Lori's going to the bakery to make it better.

I need to brush my teeth.

AND, I lost a book I'm supposed to read next. I'm so pissed with myself that it's difficult to articulate. This is why cleaning never works out in the end. WHERE IS THE BOOK?!

Happy holidays, Buffistas!

In a Jewish wedding, the wedding ring has to belong to the groom, and be worth more than a (very small) amount of money. These are internal characteristics of the ring, and if they don't exist, it can't be a wedding ring. But it can be a small plastic glowy thing, for all that matters, and it'll still work.

Leading to a number of "unintentional" weddings back in the '70s when some Jewish kids at a carnival used plastic rings on their girlfriends and uttered the traditional formula.

CV! I'm so happy for you!!

But it can be a small plastic glowy thing, for all that matters, and it'll still work.

It's a wedding ring AND a power center, all in one!

AND, I lost a book I'm supposed to read next

Kat, did you put order in thing sbefore cleaning up? Could it be that the book went into where of one of the things you put back in their places went?

Leading to a number of "unintentional" weddings back in the '70s when some Jewish kids at a carnival used plastic rings on their girlfriends and uttered the traditional formula

There were several urban legends going around about this, usually between two kids in the same age-group in "Bnei Akiva", that had to have a proper divorce later. I have no idea if it's really for real or not.

It's a wedding ring AND a power center, all in one!

Considering the importance of marriage in the traditional Jewish society, this description is way too accurate.

And with that, I'm off to light the 3rd Hanukkah candle.

Thank you thank you! I've been waiting for this for a LONG time (this was our fourth Christmas together), and I am so ridiculously excited! I've already bought pretty much every bridal magazine ever published. I've suddenly turned into Wedding Day Barbie, is this normal??? I even went to get a manicure yesterday so my hands would look pretty when everyone is looking at the ring!

Squeeeeeeeeee!

t picks Cyber up and swings her around and around and around

You are going to be the adorbalist bridezilla EVAH!

Kat, did you put order in thing sbefore cleaning up? Could it be that the book went into where of one of the things you put back in their places went?

Nilly, I could have, but didn't. I need a housewife and a librarian to help me manage the books. Even after last summer's book purge extrarodinaire, I'm still runnin gout of book space. Tis irksome.

Leading to a number of "unintentional" weddings back in the '70s when some Jewish kids at a carnival used plastic rings on their girlfriends and uttered the traditional formula.

You aren't talking the talk of the unintentionally married, are you?

Congratulations, CV!

I don't understand this. How can anything other than wearing the ring as an agreement to marry make it an engagement ring?

When one of the most powerful companies in the world makes it their business to tell women what is and isn't appropriate. Fucking DeBeers and their diamond solitaire marketing bullshit.