Wait, if you got and wear the ring as a token of your agreement to marry, it is an engagement ring. It might not be a diamond solitaire, or a solitaire of any kind, but it most certainly is an engagement ring, unless you don't want it to be.

What Cindy said.

I must go away now, I've been "working" for two hours now, and I have accomplished NOTHING work related. Must force myself to focus, there is a mountain of work waiting for me.

I'll keep you guys posted. Eventually, I'll try to get a web site up with pictures of the ring and all the details as they develop.

Bye!!!

I'm over any guilt.

That is good news, sara.

Well, let's just hope it LASTS another year. Birthday + xmas. But ... no.

It's good that I'll have a year and a half to work it out!

Just out of curiosity, if it's OK to ask - why do you choose to wait that long? If it's not an OK question to ask, then I apologize in advance. [Edit: x-post, of course. Bye, CV!]

It isn't actually an engagement ring

I don't understand this. How can anything other than wearing the ring as an agreement to marry make it an engagement ring?

In a Jewish wedding, the wedding ring has to belong to the groom, and be worth more than a (very small) amount of money. These are internal characteristics of the ring, and if they don't exist, it can't be a wedding ring. But it can be a small plastic glowy thing, for all that matters, and it'll still work.

I'm over any guilt.

So at least there's the one good thing out of it.

Agreed, who cares what the jeweler thinks? It makes ME happy. And screw it, when the wedding band is added, I'll just wear the engagement ring on my right hand!

My ring is also oddly shaped, (the sapphire stone is oval and curves below the line of the band) and one jeweler we went to for bands said that I'd have to switch the engagement ring to the right hand because my ring wouldn't sit right on a band. But lo and behold- the very same jeweler who informed us that my ring was not "TECHNICALLY an engagement ring" had a band that was shaped in a way that perfectly fit and accomodated the scandalous sapphire Not!Engagement ring. Heh.

Cybervixen, congratulations! That's impossibly exciting. Being surprised is still a ton of fun.

sarameg, I'm sorry that things were worse than expected, esp. since you expected things to be bad.

Kitchen confidential! That's exactly where the nerd hole/idiot hole reference was.

Moving to the winter room was tramautic. Lori's going to the bakery to make it better.

I need to brush my teeth.

AND, I lost a book I'm supposed to read next. I'm so pissed with myself that it's difficult to articulate. This is why cleaning never works out in the end. WHERE IS THE BOOK?!

Happy holidays, Buffistas!

In a Jewish wedding, the wedding ring has to belong to the groom, and be worth more than a (very small) amount of money. These are internal characteristics of the ring, and if they don't exist, it can't be a wedding ring. But it can be a small plastic glowy thing, for all that matters, and it'll still work.

Leading to a number of "unintentional" weddings back in the '70s when some Jewish kids at a carnival used plastic rings on their girlfriends and uttered the traditional formula.

CV! I'm so happy for you!!

But it can be a small plastic glowy thing, for all that matters, and it'll still work.

It's a wedding ring AND a power center, all in one!