We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm the hero!

Wash ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Emily - Dec 20, 2005 1:07:00 pm PST #3714 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Speaking of cats, our landlord is apparently claiming she didn't know we had one. This cat has been living there for three years, and overlapped with another cat who had been there for three before.


bon bon - Dec 20, 2005 1:08:58 pm PST #3715 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The gist seems to be that it's okay to disregard atheists and any religion without Moses.

While that's true, the selection is a bit more subtle than that. He's not *ruling* that he wants to permit discrimination against those groups, he's saying that that's already inherently allowed and the 10C case is no different.

It took me several reads of the passage to follow his logic (though I probably would have done better had I followed the link), but this is my interpretation of the steps in his argument:

  • 1. Establishment of religion is what is unconstitutional.
  • 2. But the Court has already ruled before that simply acknowledging a "God" does not go so far as establish a religion. In other words, we already permit some kind of reference to monotheism.
  • 3. Therefore, we already permit some disregard of polytheists and atheists by saying that monotheism does not establish a religion.

  • 4. All of the major monotheistic religions respect the 10C.
  • 5. Therefore, reference to the 10C does not single out any particular monotheistic religion.
  • 6. And it's the singling out that is unconstitutional.
So, finally,
  • 7. Reference to all the monotheistic religions= constitutional therefore reference to all monotheistic religions via the 10C= also constitutional.


Emily - Dec 20, 2005 1:11:11 pm PST #3716 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I'm hurt that you think I'd put ads like that up! I'm surprised you think Google would, but I admit I have no idea about their graphical ads.

By "I blame" I meant I blame the existence of those kinds of ads for people's (or at least my) reluctance to click through on ads in general.


Katie M - Dec 20, 2005 1:12:22 pm PST #3717 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I blame the "Prove that you can click on a moving thing/answer a pop culture question, win something we're obviously not going to give you!" ads. I don't click through on almost any ads. I don't trust them.

I keep accidentally clicking those new ones that expand when you roll over them. I don't roll over them on purpose, I swear!

Well, those and the evil transparent ones with moving parts and difficult-to-find close buttons.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2005 1:14:24 pm PST #3718 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The ones that drift across your screen are appalling.

I get why they need to advertise, really. And why people need to place them. But don't fuck with my ability to see what I came for.

I meant I blame the existence of those kinds of ads for people's (or at least my) reluctance to click through on ads in general.

Ah, sorry. I've clicked through on a few. But the more it moves, the less likely I am to do so, because the more I feel I'm being sold a wack bill of goods.


tommyrot - Dec 20, 2005 1:19:03 pm PST #3719 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I fear the cooling fan on my G3 iBook is getting close to failing. If I go to a web page with lots of animated ads, the CPU usage is close to 100%, and if I leave it at a page like that too long, the cooling fan starts up. Then I get mad at the marketing bastards who are threatening damage to my computer.

I s'pose the answer is to get a faster laptop. But... a 900 mhz G3 should be adequate for web browsing.


Dana - Dec 20, 2005 1:19:23 pm PST #3720 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I actually really like cross-multiplication, because I feel like I understand it and can use it with confidence.


ChiKat - Dec 20, 2005 1:25:43 pm PST #3721 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Hello?? I'm bored. Y'all are supposed to entertain me!!!

Please proceed with the entertaining.


tommyrot - Dec 20, 2005 1:25:47 pm PST #3722 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Dumbass ID backlash:

Richard Thompson of the Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center, the "public interest law firm" cited in Jones' opinion, made clear that he didn't consider the debate to be a waste.

"This should be done in the scientific community, debating it out. ... The debate is still going on. It's a new debate," Thompson said on MSNBC-TV.

If you want this debate to happen in the scientific community, then submit some fucking scientific papers to fucking peer review.

Bastard.

(IIRC, ID advocates have yet to submit anything to peer review.)

eta: [link]


Jesse - Dec 20, 2005 1:33:05 pm PST #3723 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Those baby shoes are adorable! I want them!! It's probably too soon for me to stocking up for my as-yet hypothetical future child, right?

I almost never click through ads either. Say one out of 9790 times.