There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Dec 05, 2005 9:56:57 am PST #9437 of 10006
Ann, that's a ferret.

Snow has started in DC. Doesn't look like it's sticking yet, but I'm on the 8th floor.


tommyrot - Dec 05, 2005 10:12:47 am PST #9438 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Intelligent Design on the wane? [link]

Behind the headlines, however, intelligent design as a field of inquiry is failing to gain the traction its supporters had hoped for. It has gained little support among the academics who should have been its natural allies. And if the intelligent design proponents lose the case in Dover, there could be serious consequences for the movement's credibility.

On college campuses, the movement's theorists are academic pariahs, publicly denounced by their own colleagues. Design proponents have published few papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

The Templeton Foundation, a major supporter of projects seeking to reconcile science and religion, says that after providing a few grants for conferences and courses to debate intelligent design, they asked proponents to submit proposals for actual research.

"They never came in," said Charles L. Harper Jr., senior vice president at the Templeton Foundation, who said that while he was skeptical from the beginning, other foundation officials were initially intrigued and later grew disillusioned.

"From the point of view of rigor and intellectual seriousness, the intelligent design people don't come out very well in our world of scientific review," he said.

While intelligent design has hit obstacles among scientists, it has also failed to find a warm embrace at many evangelical Christian colleges. Even at conservative schools, scholars and theologians who were initially excited about intelligent design say they have come to find its arguments unconvincing. They, too, have been greatly swayed by the scientists at their own institutions and elsewhere who have examined intelligent design and found it insufficiently substantiated in comparison to evolution.


shrift - Dec 05, 2005 10:15:40 am PST #9439 of 10006
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Neck still hurts like whoa. Work horrible. Being nitpicked and guilted on all fronts, including fannish. Want to crawl under bed with heating pad and manga.


Aims - Dec 05, 2005 10:17:37 am PST #9440 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I've decided that since "creationism" has changed it's name to "intelligent design", I'ma give "evolution" a new name.

From henceforth, "Evolution" is to be called "gradual development".

t stamps foot


msbelle - Dec 05, 2005 10:21:29 am PST #9441 of 10006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I was gonna try to get an earlier flight out, but I swear the weather forecasts sound really wimpy and I don't feel like rushing. An earlier flight would mean leaving for the airport RIGHT NOW! Bah, not gonna. If I get delayed or re-directed, then so be it. Be warned Buffistas, if I get redirected to any of your towns I will be calling.


Allyson - Dec 05, 2005 10:21:30 am PST #9442 of 10006
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If a doctor visit leaves me feeling humiliated and like I never want to see a doctor again, I should write a letter to my HMO, correct?


Calli - Dec 05, 2005 10:22:18 am PST #9443 of 10006
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Abso-fuckin-lutely, Allyson.

Shrift, I'm sorry about the neck and general duck pecking.


Cashmere - Dec 05, 2005 10:22:53 am PST #9444 of 10006
Now tagless for your comfort.

If a doctor visit leaves me feeling humiliated and like I never want to see a doctor again, I should write a letter to my HMO, correct?

Hell, yes.


Emily - Dec 05, 2005 10:24:13 am PST #9445 of 10006
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I should write a letter to my HMO, correct?

Y'damn skippy. Is it your regular PCP or a specialist? Me, I wrote to the doctor I'd seen and cc'ed the insurance company and my PCP. Okay, not much came from it, but I felt better.


Allyson - Dec 05, 2005 10:25:32 am PST #9446 of 10006
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Okay, not much came from it, but I felt better.

Did your doctor treat you better the next time?