Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Nov 15, 2005 12:00:51 pm PST #4381 of 10006

I don't expect anything extra by virtue of being a girl.

Oh god, I got into an argument about that today. And it was a stupid argument too, because that was so not the source of the issue.

I did the adult and reasonable thing and threw the sheaf of papers I was holding at the person.


kat perez - Nov 15, 2005 12:00:56 pm PST #4382 of 10006
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Crap, now I'm really overthinking this: the passenger is on the sidewalk side of the car, and also I really don't want the driver hanging out of the car, for safety.

The offending hollerer is "hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride." So not so much with the safety issues. He also thinks he's fly and is always talkin' bout what he wants but just sits on his broke ass.

Yeah, the song is kinda "no romance without finance" but also, to me, a lot about wanna-be playas who are really just frontin'.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2005 12:01:03 pm PST #4383 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would enjoy that.

You mean the original? By Otis? It sounds off to me, and I guess it's because when it's sung by a woman it's reactionary and trying to tip things towards balance, whereas by a man it's more likely to be status quo.


Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2005 12:03:04 pm PST #4384 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Yes.

--God

That should be the new billboard!


kat perez - Nov 15, 2005 12:03:13 pm PST #4385 of 10006
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I love the Otis version. A man needs his propers when he gets home just like a woman does.


Wolfram - Nov 15, 2005 12:05:57 pm PST #4386 of 10006
Visilurking

I'm curious if anyone else has seen this guy, or it's just circulating in my circle of Jews:

Matisyahu

To my untrained ear he sounds pretty good, although watching him brings on a strange sort of sensory dissonance.


erikaj - Nov 15, 2005 12:06:25 pm PST #4387 of 10006
Always Anti-fascist!

I could never really choose, but Aretha's is...iconic for a reason.


Jesse - Nov 15, 2005 12:07:52 pm PST #4388 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I've never heard the Otis version, sadly.

It sounds off to me, and I guess it's because when it's sung by a woman it's reactionary and trying to tip things towards balance, whereas by a man it's more likely to be status quo.

Yeah, but I wish it didn't, so therefore I support both men and women in looking for a little respect.


Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2005 12:08:33 pm PST #4389 of 10006
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

R-E-S-P-E-C-T as sung by a man vs. as sung by a woman?

Not Jesse, but I think it would kind of depend on who was singing it.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2005 12:10:31 pm PST #4390 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it would kind of depend on who was singing it.

Otis v. Aretha.

Of course, my all time "No, gender was important to the meaning" is If I Was Your Girlfriend (see how it comes back to TLC? They jumped my shark with Waterfalls).