Also, you can tell it's not gonna have a happy ending when the main guy's all bumpy.

Tara ,'First Date'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Nov 11, 2005 8:32:40 am PST #3062 of 10006
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I vote that Jessica gets her way on this.


shrift - Nov 11, 2005 8:36:10 am PST #3063 of 10006
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Was it the guy who is OMG SO OPPRESSED because women hold all the power in America?

His lj name is houster_gold. The one who doesn't watch TV yet insists that us womens RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAH.

The best part, I think, is when he and his little friends went apeshit over what he thought was implied homophobia. But since he knows everything there is to know about everything ever (why should he cite? he's the expert here!), he didn't realize that "honey" has long been used as a patronizing term for women, and wasn't about how many rubber duckies he has in his closet.


Connie Neil - Nov 11, 2005 8:39:33 am PST #3064 of 10006
brillig

Oh, lovely, my pharmacy was robbed last night for Oxycontin. Guy had a gun. Don't shoot my pharmacists, dammit!


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2005 8:53:51 am PST #3065 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

he didn't realize that "honey" has long been used as a patronizing term for women

Wow, that sounds like quality discourse.

I have to say, I'm suddenly getting a crash course in macro-projects, and they way they lumber but can still change direction with blinding speed. Some weeks my status reports are completely unrecognisable from the weeks before -- but at least I'm picking up the phone more often and calling strangers to ask them what they mean.

Two big payoffs -- you get tone, and there's no paper trail.

Off to find that business continuity document. Page 31 is a real keeper.


tommyrot - Nov 11, 2005 8:53:53 am PST #3066 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Anyone a subscriber to Esquire or a member of Esquire Premium? There's an article I want to read but can't: [link]


Miracleman - Nov 11, 2005 9:01:48 am PST #3067 of 10006
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I'm not in fanfic circles, either, but I do see a lot of that same sort of response whenever any women found a "women-oriented" theater. There's a lot of mocking and rolling-of-eyes, and demands for inclusion, because if excluding women is wrong, so is excluding men.

Huh. Yeah, I can see that.

Not the "if excluding women is wrong, so is excluding men" part. I mean that the phenomenon exists.

When I was briefly in fanfic I happened to stumble into a primarily male group. Now these were good writers...and we would have LOVED it if a woman had decided to write in our little corner. But in perusing other groups I saw a lot of "womens don't get how *we* do our superheroes" and then the same guys would say, in regard to primarily women-attended fanfic groups "YOU GUYS ARE WAY ELITIST YOU ELITIST BEE-YOTCHES YOU! Also, why do you guys always think Batman is boning Clark?"

And, even among the group I was part of there was a fair amount of "We'd love it if a woman, or women, would write with us. On the other hand...I don't understand their fic in other groups."

I, personally, have found that a large portion of the fic I've read in primarily women fic-groups is not to my taste. Not that it's bad...it's just, I dunno..."Not how *I* see [character X]". But I didn't think about that being a gender issue until just now, actually. I just thought I had a narrow vision of [character X] that I was comfortable with because, well...I'm right, the universe is wrong, yadda yadda.

Anyway. My 2/100th of a buck.


Miracleman - Nov 11, 2005 9:14:08 am PST #3068 of 10006
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Okay, killed the thread. Backing away slowly....


Aims - Nov 11, 2005 9:16:12 am PST #3069 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And you wonder why we don't have any friends.


Miracleman - Nov 11, 2005 9:17:47 am PST #3070 of 10006
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I assumed it was because of the constant experimenting on them to further my plan for world domination. I guess I was wrong.


Aims - Nov 11, 2005 9:19:15 am PST #3071 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

No, it's the inability to not run your mouth.

*smooch*