Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Katie M - Nov 10, 2005 9:29:42 am PST #2821 of 10006
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I don't actually mind the smell, as such; I just can't cope with being around cigarette smoke for more than an hour or so, because I end up with nasty upper respiratory systems and feel lousy.


askye - Nov 10, 2005 9:32:30 am PST #2822 of 10006
Thrive to spite them

I'm responsible for payroll, which means I make sure that all the timesheets get turned in. Regular employees get paid their 40 automatically, so sometimes a guy just forgets that he needs to have it turned in.

However, I call and remind them if I don't see it. For any Monday holidays (we have to run payroll by 5 pm Monday)I email the supervisors, call the supervisors, and remind the supervisors when I see them. It's slightly overkill but then I don't have to wait until the last minute.


Dana - Nov 10, 2005 9:41:34 am PST #2823 of 10006
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

msbelle really might be the nicest.


Burrell - Nov 10, 2005 9:41:43 am PST #2824 of 10006
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I have found the smell of the smoker varied with, well, the smoker. As Robin said, heavy smokers who smoke in an enclosed space carry the smell with them all the time. But I don't necessarily notice the smell of smoke on someone who tends to smoke outside, except right after they have had a cigarette break.


§ ita § - Nov 10, 2005 9:43:23 am PST #2825 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't like how smoking smells much, when trapped. I don't mind how smokers smell, in the same way I don't mind how people smell -- unless they're doing off things with their personal hygiene.

I just pulled off the class lab fine, despite having missed an hour and a half of this morning's class, and, really, not having paid attention all week. Still, a co-worker is calling me Omarosa, and I mightn't watch reality TV, but I know that's not good.


Susan W. - Nov 10, 2005 9:44:07 am PST #2826 of 10006
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Katie and Burrell speak for me WRT smoke and smokers.


sarameg - Nov 10, 2005 9:48:48 am PST #2827 of 10006

Only time I really really truly hated and despised and got a rotten headache from being around a smoker was one who also smelled pungently of stale instant coffee, stale sweat, old-person breath mint (there is really no other description) AND cigar smoke. I think it was less the smoke than the combination. It was a professor, and I used to always try to sit by an open window. Even in February.

I don't like smoking anywhere not well ventilated. The minute I can smell it on me, it's time to shower or do laundry or something.


Allyson - Nov 10, 2005 9:49:00 am PST #2828 of 10006
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You know ita, when you went out for your first job interview here, I felt so awful all day, that your clothes probably reeked of smoke and how irritating that must be for a non-smoker. Seriously, I thought about how it was affecting you, a lot, and yet still, couldn't make myself stop.


Theodosia - Nov 10, 2005 9:50:53 am PST #2829 of 10006
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Molly Ivins gives me many reasons to like her.

Something that I don't think can be stated often enough: torture rarely works. In fact, intelligence obtained by torture is mostly wrong, it's far too easy for the torturer to get the torturee to tell them definitively what they want to hear. Bad intelligence is worse than no intelligence, which is how you end up digging up holes all over Iraq certain you're going to find WMDs.

So not only is the CIA torturing people, torturing innocent people, torturing and violating the Geneva Conventions which keep our own people safer during wartime, they're getting bad intelligence to boot. This makes sense in what topsy turvy world that Cheney lives in?


Jessica - Nov 10, 2005 9:52:11 am PST #2830 of 10006
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Still, a co-worker is calling me Omarosa, and I mightn't watch reality TV, but I know that's not good.

I don't know this co-worker of yours, but you'd be justified in kicking her in the head.