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Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Nov 10, 2005 9:01:08 am PST #2811 of 10006

Because we're a gov't contract, if people aren't doing their timesheets, the feds come after us with the dread audit and that makes payroll's life miserable, to say the least. So they cheerfully nag, beg, plead and cajole. The consequence for the employee are much less dire than for payroll.

ION, people are insane, I'm in denial and procrastinating.


Allyson - Nov 10, 2005 9:05:27 am PST #2812 of 10006
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

So there's a discussion at this other board about how bad smokers smell and how sick it makes some people to be anywhere in the vicinity of a smoker because the reek is unbearable.

Now I feel like ass. Is it really that bad? Like when I'm just sitting next to someone? Should I carry barf bags?


erikaj - Nov 10, 2005 9:08:26 am PST #2813 of 10006
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't care for that smell, especially, Allyson, but that shit's just rude.


Nutty - Nov 10, 2005 9:09:40 am PST #2814 of 10006
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Is it really that bad? Like when I'm just sitting next to someone?

My grandmother was a pack-a-day smoker, and, well, the smell was distinctive in all her clothes and her person. Sometimes, at the library where I used to work, you could tell whether the person who had last checked out a book was a smoker just by sniffing the book's spine.

But not barfworthy.

A lit cigarette smells like somethign burning, which isn't particularly obnox for me; I do find the leftover smell of cigarettes obnox, because it stays for hours, and it gets into everything. Sometimes when I'm at a smoke-friendly bar, and come home, I take off my clothes and realize my bra smells like cigarettes. Which is annoying.

But not barfworthy.


Scrappy - Nov 10, 2005 9:10:53 am PST #2815 of 10006
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

It can be bad, Allyson. More if a person is in an enclosed space and smokes, as my parents used to do all Winter. They ALWAYS smelled like stale smoke and it was not a pleasing scent. If you smoke outside, it shouldn't be that noticable.


Jesse - Nov 10, 2005 9:11:56 am PST #2816 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Every so often, like on the train, I notice myself smelling smokey, but I firmly believe it varies by what I'm wearing and the weather, since I usually smoke outside.


erikaj - Nov 10, 2005 9:14:17 am PST #2817 of 10006
Always Anti-fascist!

What Nutty said about it clinging to your effects. But it stinks way less than say, bodily functions, which we all have.


flea - Nov 10, 2005 9:23:27 am PST #2818 of 10006
information libertarian

I had a colleague in graduate school who was a very heavy smoker, had standards of oral hygiene that I can only hope were not normal for her home country in Eastern Europe, and who wore very strong rose-scented essential oil. When I had to sit next to her in class it was really torture. She sort of smelled like a charnel house. It didn't help that I hated her for reasons completely independent of her smell.

When I go out to a bar or a smoky party (which is never, anymore) I always come home and strip completely naked before falling into bed. Usually I'm too tired/drunk to wash my hair, but I would if I could, because if I don't I have to wash the sheets the next day because of the stale smoke smell.


Fred Pete - Nov 10, 2005 9:24:51 am PST #2819 of 10006
Ann, that's a ferret.

Our timekeeper sends us a reminder about our time sheets every pay period. Which really comes in handy since we switched from a paper-based system (where getting the physical timesheet was a good reminder) to an electronic system.

Which reminds me, my timesheet is due today.


Cass - Nov 10, 2005 9:26:37 am PST #2820 of 10006
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Stale smoke smells icky but I've known a lot of smokers and only one smelled obnoxious. Nothing that opening a window, stepping outside, washing her hands or any of a zillion other things wouldn't have fixed.

It wasn't the smoke, per se. It was the smoker.

In the same way I don't think cats smell but lock 'em in a closed house without changing the litter box and there is stank.