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Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 11:46:54 am PST #8426 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

As for the Judaism comparison - from what I can tell, this is actually a fairly legitimate comparison. In the Jewish spectrum, you have first the strong religious believers (of various levels of practice, of course), then you have the equivalent of Christmas-and-Easter believers (only, of course, it's Rosh Hashanah, Passover, and, in America at least, Hannukah/Jewsmas instead) who won't say they don't believe the religion, but it's primary significance comes in the occasional cultural celebration. Next you have those who were raised with some level of religiousness, but have rejected the religion part or never believed it strongly, but might still spin a dreidel, eat some latkes, make matzah ball soup - these are the equivalent of cultural Christians who still celebrate Christmas. Finally, you have purely secular Jews who actually scorn celebrating Jewish holidays and whatnot, but nonetheless were generally raised with a Jewish perspective, of sorts. They certainly, generally, are less likely to fully celebrate Christmas than a purely secular non-Jew, and they will still be more likely to use the occasional yiddish. No matter how hard they reject the religion, their cultural backdrop is, often, still Jewish. My hardcore atheist friend who loves Christmas is the Christian-side equivalent of this, with her long-term Western/Christian background providing that bit of cultural backdrop.

It's telling that, as specific a list as this is, not one person in my (mostly) Jewish family is described here.

Generalizations are hard.


Gris - Dec 07, 2005 11:48:31 am PST #8427 of 10003
Hey. New board.

Oh, I know. To be fair, I'm not sure too many people in the Christian world are really described there either. My main point was just that, um, okay I'm not really sure what my main point was actually.

Maybe that everything is more confusing than it ought to be.


ChiKat - Dec 07, 2005 12:24:42 pm PST #8428 of 10003
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I have 2 out of my 3 holiday "things in jars" gifts decided, and am still wavering on the 3rd. Here are some of my ideas:

I vote strawberry! What are your other two items??

The One True Christmas Carol is "O Holy Night."

Yes, yes it is. I love that song. It's my favorite Christmas carol.

I love this whole holiday conversation, but have nothing to add as all my brain cells are being used for school right now. Christmas is my all-time favorite holiday and I love it with a passion. I identify and celebrate the religious aspects and revel in the secular ones, too. I love the birth of Christ story, I love the angels, I love Santa, I love Christmas trees, I love Christmas carols and radio stations that play Christmas music 24/7, I love spending time with friends and family, I love egg nog, I love being on reindeer watch with my nieces/nephews, all of it.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 12:26:13 pm PST #8429 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I vote strawberry! What are your other two items??

Caramelized red onion relish, and mango/red pepper chutney. And cranberry liqueur, but that's in bottles not jars. (Note to self: buy vodka and cranberries.)


ChiKat - Dec 07, 2005 12:27:20 pm PST #8430 of 10003
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Caramelized red onion relish, and mango/red pepper chutney

Yum. Do you have recipes for these?


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 12:30:36 pm PST #8431 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Relish and chutney.


EpicTangent - Dec 07, 2005 12:30:36 pm PST #8432 of 10003
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Wow, you guys are deep. Lots of fascinating discussion goings-on. I have nothing to add, except maybe Nora, does it have to be oval? Because Overstock has something similar with a heart . Or, if you could settle for the toggle-type bracelet, they have bajillions.


DavidS - Dec 07, 2005 12:36:17 pm PST #8433 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec, want me to kick her butt? It won't be as definitive as an ita asskick, but quite memorable, nonetheless.

Yes, please. Preferably when she's at the top of a stairway.


brenda m - Dec 07, 2005 12:39:30 pm PST #8434 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Preferably when she's at the top of a stairway.

Oh lord. We're having even more than our usual to-do around here because our biannual big ass client conference is coming up this weekend and Friday night's blacktie dinner speaker fell down the stairs at his home and punctured a lung.


tommyrot - Dec 07, 2005 12:41:54 pm PST #8435 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Damn. Lungs are pretty high on the "things to not puncture" list....