Perkins, a world of no. I've got nieces and nephews (or great-nieces and nephews at this point, who I'm buying for). I go in with another sister for their gifts and explicitly say how much I'll give towards that. Then my sister goes shopping with said information.
You know what I told my sisters in regards to Owen? "DO NOT GO CRAZY. If you get him a toy, make it ONE toy. If you get him clothes, he's in X size and please, he really doesn't need a lot."
I'd go off on someone that told me I'm paying for a gift they're picking out.
Also, you can just as easily claim that holidays like Yule and Saturnalia were corrupted by Christians who stole all their symbols.
Not so much "stole" as "assimilated." Like the Borg.
You think I'm being paranoid about this whole "War to save Christmas" being anti-semitic:
No, I don't, but I do know some of the most reasoned pieces I've read on the pro-Christmas stuff were written by religious Jews. Anything I've read about it (not much other than here, because all of this stuff tends to make me either silly or sick) poses it much more as a secularist/religious issue than a religion A/religion B issue.
I think another force behind this is that for so long the only holiday acknowledged was Christmas and now that Target and others are tacitly including everyone's holiday, the fundies are feeling slighted. If they're included in the bunch, rather than being first and foremost, they're being persecuted.
Not so much "stole" as "assimilated." Like the Borg.
There is no Christmas, there is only Yule Zool.
Is she HIGH?
You're actually being nicer to her than I was. My reaction was very much centered around the word "bitch", and not in the nice way.
In her defense, she didn't say "you will pay for it", she said "You could/should pay for it". Somehow, that didn't help that much, since she also said she had already bought it.
Somehow, that didn't help, since she also said she had already bought it.
At some point, I'd be telling her about the wonderful charity I'd be donating to in her children's names for their Christmas present.
If that were my sister, I'd be hoping that my mother wouldn't pay for the gift either.
The thing about this is, I'm sure there are probably very religious Jews out there who refuse to shop at places with specific Christmas decorations. Ditto hardcore anti-religious atheists. The AFA is the same breed of folks, they're just bigger because of the larger Christian contingent in the country, plus the sad, sad fact that too many "Christian" organizations (though certainly not all, thank, um, God) in America are annoyingly encouraging of sheeplike do-what-I-say-and-don't-think-about-it behavior.
It's up to Target to decide whether they feel more comfortable scaring away the fundamentalist Christians or projecting an image of we-love-Jesus-ONLY. They chose to go with the former, and now they're reaping the benefits of that decision. It's the same decision I would make, so yay Target I guess, but the AFA people can spend their money wherever they want. I don't agree with their reasoning, but I also can't bring myself to care. As far as I know, Disney never gave in to their boycott, and it didn't hurt them much, so I'm sure Target can withstand.
The thing about this is, I'm sure there are probably very religious Jews out there who refuse to shop at places with specific Christmas decorations. Ditto hardcore anti-religious atheists. The AFA is the same breed of folks
No, they're a large lobby organization. There's a major difference between individuals making individual choices, and a group like the AFA soliciting boycotts from their members.
