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Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 9:15:51 am PST #8355 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Not so much "stole" as "assimilated." Like the Borg.

There is no Christmas, there is only Yule Zool.


Lee - Dec 07, 2005 9:22:25 am PST #8356 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Is she HIGH?

You're actually being nicer to her than I was. My reaction was very much centered around the word "bitch", and not in the nice way.

In her defense, she didn't say "you will pay for it", she said "You could/should pay for it". Somehow, that didn't help that much, since she also said she had already bought it.


Cashmere - Dec 07, 2005 9:23:42 am PST #8357 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Somehow, that didn't help, since she also said she had already bought it.

At some point, I'd be telling her about the wonderful charity I'd be donating to in her children's names for their Christmas present.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2005 9:25:32 am PST #8358 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If that were my sister, I'd be hoping that my mother wouldn't pay for the gift either.


Gris - Dec 07, 2005 9:28:17 am PST #8359 of 10003
Hey. New board.

The thing about this is, I'm sure there are probably very religious Jews out there who refuse to shop at places with specific Christmas decorations. Ditto hardcore anti-religious atheists. The AFA is the same breed of folks, they're just bigger because of the larger Christian contingent in the country, plus the sad, sad fact that too many "Christian" organizations (though certainly not all, thank, um, God) in America are annoyingly encouraging of sheeplike do-what-I-say-and-don't-think-about-it behavior.

It's up to Target to decide whether they feel more comfortable scaring away the fundamentalist Christians or projecting an image of we-love-Jesus-ONLY. They chose to go with the former, and now they're reaping the benefits of that decision. It's the same decision I would make, so yay Target I guess, but the AFA people can spend their money wherever they want. I don't agree with their reasoning, but I also can't bring myself to care. As far as I know, Disney never gave in to their boycott, and it didn't hurt them much, so I'm sure Target can withstand.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 9:38:10 am PST #8360 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The thing about this is, I'm sure there are probably very religious Jews out there who refuse to shop at places with specific Christmas decorations. Ditto hardcore anti-religious atheists. The AFA is the same breed of folks

No, they're a large lobby organization. There's a major difference between individuals making individual choices, and a group like the AFA soliciting boycotts from their members.


Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 9:40:10 am PST #8361 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.

Target's real problem is that both sides of the cultural wars consider them a, well, target. With pharmacists being able to not fill prescriptions on ideological objections on one side and the Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas battle on the other, Target isn't winning.


Cashmere - Dec 07, 2005 9:41:28 am PST #8362 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Target isn't winning.

There's a lot of that going around in this country.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 9:42:04 am PST #8363 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Target isn't winning.

Honestly, I doubt either issue will impact their bottom line all that much, as long as they can maintain their image of "Less evil than Wal-Mart."


Lee - Dec 07, 2005 9:43:47 am PST #8364 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

If that were my sister, I'd be hoping that my mother wouldn't pay for the gift either.

Oh, I am, I am. I know Mom will, and that if I tell her not to it will make Christmas even more unpleasant than it will otherwise, but I am hoping, and I will make it clear that I am not going to help out.

I like Cashmere's idea, especially since Mom and Dad have nothing they want, so a charitable contribution might be a good thing for them.