I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

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Gris - Dec 07, 2005 9:28:17 am PST #8359 of 10003
Hey. New board.

The thing about this is, I'm sure there are probably very religious Jews out there who refuse to shop at places with specific Christmas decorations. Ditto hardcore anti-religious atheists. The AFA is the same breed of folks, they're just bigger because of the larger Christian contingent in the country, plus the sad, sad fact that too many "Christian" organizations (though certainly not all, thank, um, God) in America are annoyingly encouraging of sheeplike do-what-I-say-and-don't-think-about-it behavior.

It's up to Target to decide whether they feel more comfortable scaring away the fundamentalist Christians or projecting an image of we-love-Jesus-ONLY. They chose to go with the former, and now they're reaping the benefits of that decision. It's the same decision I would make, so yay Target I guess, but the AFA people can spend their money wherever they want. I don't agree with their reasoning, but I also can't bring myself to care. As far as I know, Disney never gave in to their boycott, and it didn't hurt them much, so I'm sure Target can withstand.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 9:38:10 am PST #8360 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The thing about this is, I'm sure there are probably very religious Jews out there who refuse to shop at places with specific Christmas decorations. Ditto hardcore anti-religious atheists. The AFA is the same breed of folks

No, they're a large lobby organization. There's a major difference between individuals making individual choices, and a group like the AFA soliciting boycotts from their members.


Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 9:40:10 am PST #8361 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.

Target's real problem is that both sides of the cultural wars consider them a, well, target. With pharmacists being able to not fill prescriptions on ideological objections on one side and the Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas battle on the other, Target isn't winning.


Cashmere - Dec 07, 2005 9:41:28 am PST #8362 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Target isn't winning.

There's a lot of that going around in this country.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 9:42:04 am PST #8363 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Target isn't winning.

Honestly, I doubt either issue will impact their bottom line all that much, as long as they can maintain their image of "Less evil than Wal-Mart."


Lee - Dec 07, 2005 9:43:47 am PST #8364 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

If that were my sister, I'd be hoping that my mother wouldn't pay for the gift either.

Oh, I am, I am. I know Mom will, and that if I tell her not to it will make Christmas even more unpleasant than it will otherwise, but I am hoping, and I will make it clear that I am not going to help out.

I like Cashmere's idea, especially since Mom and Dad have nothing they want, so a charitable contribution might be a good thing for them.


Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 9:43:51 am PST #8365 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.

as long as they can maintain their image of "Less evil than Wal-Mart."

Which is why I'll probably continue to shop at Target as the "discount variety goods near home" store. Though I really prefer independents, or at least local chains, over big national chains.


WindSparrow - Dec 07, 2005 9:45:10 am PST #8366 of 10003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Good news! I only have five more work days in this work week.

Do I really have to go?


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2005 9:49:22 am PST #8367 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know Mom will, and that if I tell her not to it will make Christmas even more unpleasant than it will otherwise

Ah, well. I'd totally tell my mother I didn't think she should, and she might laugh, but then she would, because apparently there are more important things than my sense of nasty justice.


Vortex - Dec 07, 2005 9:50:14 am PST #8368 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, I am, I am. I know Mom will, and that if I tell her not to it will make Christmas even more unpleasant than it will otherwise, but I am hoping, and I will make it clear that I am not going to help out.

buy something else for your niece. that way, she doesn't get caught because of her mother's crap, but you still can tell your sister to put down the crack pipe.