I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 7:50:40 am PST #8319 of 10003
What is even happening?

"You want our money, but you don't want to acknowledge why we're spending our money."

But why should they? They serve people celebrating-- special sales, Christmas decorations and cards with a religious theme, books with a religious theme--why do they have to do any more than that?

Well, again, it's not my thing, but where are you getting the "should" out of this?

The people who aren't going to shop there (I think except for the diehards in any cause, boycotts are more often than not a lot of lip service and press, with a lot of people still running out and buying what they need, in a convenient place with a decent price, and an "Oh, I didn't have a choice, so I'll make an exception for this one purchase," sort of attitude) are pretty much saying, "It seems you don't want to target our market, so we'll shop elsewhere." I don't see any "should" situation, really.

Retailers spend millions, targeting their market(s). 75-80% of the country is supposedly Christian. I've read (I've no idea if it is accurate) that 95% of Americans celebrate not generic winter holidays, but Christmas, specifically. If that's so, why would a retailer choose not to market at least some of their "holiday" sales to people who celebrate Christmas?


Fred Pete - Dec 07, 2005 7:52:05 am PST #8320 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.

Now wait a minute. You're saying there's a connection between Donald Wildmon and Voldemort?


Amy - Dec 07, 2005 7:53:23 am PST #8321 of 10003
Because books.

Now wait a minute. You're saying there's a connection between Donald Wildmon and Voldemort?

Snerk.


DebetEsse - Dec 07, 2005 7:53:25 am PST #8322 of 10003
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I was speaking more of Kwanzaa's importance in the lives of the celebrants, which is much harder to pin down, with the lack of a religious affiliation. I'd be tempted to say that, in general, it's likely less central than Christmas, but I would willingly defer to those with more expertise.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 07, 2005 7:53:45 am PST #8323 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

interrupting for gift help:

Anyone know where to find a bracelet similar to this one: [link] but less than $100?


flea - Dec 07, 2005 7:55:18 am PST #8324 of 10003
information libertarian

Retailers spend millions, targeting their market(s). 75-80% of the country is supposedly Christian. I've read (I've no idea if it is accurate) that 95% of Americans celebrate not generic winter holidays, but Christmas, specifically. If that's so, why would a retailer choose not to market at least some of their "holiday" sales to people who celebrate Christmas?

I would say that retailers - specifically big chain ones - are really really good at tairloring their sales messages to their markets. If they say "Holiday" and not "Christmas" it might just be because "Holiday" sells better.


Trudy Booth - Dec 07, 2005 7:56:06 am PST #8325 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The corruption of Chanukka is why we need www.jewsmas.com


SuziQ - Dec 07, 2005 7:58:21 am PST #8326 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Nice bracelet Nora - wish I could be of help, but I have no idea.

Blissfully ignoring the "what are we celebrating" discussion...and I don't send out cards. I used to make my own and send, but have not had the time or motivation the last couple of years.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 7:58:32 am PST #8327 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

DH was able to find my gyno's phone # by asking the pharmacist when he was there to pick up something else (of his).

On the one hand, I can now call and yell at them for not calling back the pharmacy. On the other hand, creepy much? That someone not me can get my doctor's phone # that easily?


brenda m - Dec 07, 2005 8:04:51 am PST #8328 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can't speak for Kwanzaa, but Hannukah is a minor Jewish holiday whose importance has been inflated in America because its enough like Christmas (happens in winter + gifts) to be conflated into the same shopping frenzy. So for me, that was actually the only *non*-insulting thing in there.

If I thought Wildmon was coming at it from that perspective, sure. But I don't really think that's the case.

That Jewsmas thing was hysterical, and I've passed it on to any number of (Jewish and non) friends already. Also, those look like some good recipes.