I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 8:06:46 am PST #8329 of 10003
What is even happening?

I would say that retailers - specifically big chain ones - are really really good at tairloring their sales messages to their markets. If they say "Holiday" and not "Christmas" it might just be because "Holiday" sells better.

And so...don't you think that sort of proves the point of the group that started this protest against Target? Their point is (or at least reads to me as if it is): if you're not going to acknowledge our holiday, you must not want us as customers, so we're not going to patronize your business.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2005 8:08:52 am PST #8330 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Their point is (or at least reads to me as if it is): if you're not going to acknowledge our holiday, you must not want us as customers

Except that it's obviously untrue. The idea that "Happy Holidays" is an anti-Christian statement is absurd.


Trudy Booth - Dec 07, 2005 8:16:12 am PST #8331 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And retailers don't "acknowledge" ANY holidays. They have sales and market said sales. It's not "in honor" or ANYTHING but their margins.


DavidS - Dec 07, 2005 8:23:26 am PST #8332 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The idea that "Happy Holidays" is an anti-Christian statement is absurd.

How many holidays are there between Thanksgiving and New Year's? Christmas, Channukah, Ramadan, Winter Solstice/Yule, Kwaanza, Festivus, Christmakkuh.

Also, you can just as easily claim that holidays like Yule and Saturnalia were corrupted by Christians who stole all their symbols.


Trudy Booth - Dec 07, 2005 8:26:56 am PST #8333 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"Stole" is such a loaded word.

Once we'd slaughtered them en masse all those nice symbols were just lying around...


Nora Deirdre - Dec 07, 2005 8:36:29 am PST #8334 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I suck.

My boss brought her cute and smart almost 5-yo in to work today (the pre school had no heat) and she keeps popping in and sort of expecting me to entertain her. Which, um, I don't and keep trying to work.

She's nice and cute and sweet and I feel like an ogre, but really, I do not have it in me to babysit today.


Calli - Dec 07, 2005 8:37:51 am PST #8335 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Well, with Saturnalia the slaughter wasn't all on one side.

Still, I do like responding to "Merry Christmas" with "Happy Saturnalia".

ETA:

I do not have it in me to babysit today.

And you should be expected to because why? Unless babysitting is part of your job description, in which case I'll just say I'm sorry you're feeling at a low ebb. Actually, I'm sorry you're feeling at a low ebb either way.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 07, 2005 8:43:52 am PST #8336 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Unless babysitting is part of your job description, in which case I'll just say I'm sorry you're feeling at a low ebb.

Heh, no it's not.

This kid is like cats though- I'm probably paying the least attention to her and she's all up in my cubicle. She's trying to talk her mom (aka my boss) into asking me if I can show her what's in my drawers.

Boss/Mom: Let's leave Nora alone, she's busy
Kid: No, she's not!
Nora's Brain: uh-oh, has she been sneaking up on me surfing the internet?


Lee - Dec 07, 2005 8:44:56 am PST #8337 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

My sister sent me the Christmas list for her kids this morning. (They solve the non-believer in a Christian god married to a non-believer in Judaism issue by asking for Christmas presents from us and Hanukah presents from BiL's family).

This year she has bypassed her habit of either asking for a gift card or directing us to a specific item in a catalogue to "I'm getting Youngest daughter this particular present, and either you or mom will pay for it."

This may just be my cranky talking, but she better damn well hope mom is willing to, because me, nsm.


juliana - Dec 07, 2005 8:47:29 am PST #8338 of 10003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

This may just be my cranky talking, but she better damn well hope mom is willing to, because me, nsm.

I don't think that's your cranky talking; I think that's a perfectly reasonable response.