All times, for me. I've got a bottle of '99 Dom, Mumm's, and Veuve. Which I have to move to SF. NYE, anyone?
hmm.
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All times, for me. I've got a bottle of '99 Dom, Mumm's, and Veuve. Which I have to move to SF. NYE, anyone?
hmm.
I can't imagine doing that and have, imo, had teachers be unfair to me because of The Chair Thing. But I felt like I could not prove it so set my attention to kicking ass in their classes instead. And I did, mostly, because "fuck you" always has been a strong motivator for me, if not my favorite.
I've started getting letters from family lawyers saying that they are "very concerned" that Joe Freshman wasn't graded fairly in my class and wouldn't I rather resolve this informally.
Wow. Grade mafia.
NYE, anyone?
Ooooh yeah!
Actually, I was thinking about this on the way home from work.
Parents should definitely learn how to advocate for their students in a way that makes the teacher not hate the kid. I'll admit that when a parent comes in with guns blazing at me, as has happened once this year, it actually doesn't do anything but squash my desire to help the kid.
So, if you want to advocate in a positive way for your child, go in without thinking that the teacher is an idiot, a person just costing until summer or whatever, because if you do, you will quite potentially turn that teacher against your kid which is the very opposite of your intent.
Dylan, I don't need you to apologize for offending me because that's not how I'm wired. What would be nice though would be an acknowledgement that what you said could be read as offensive. What I personally would like to see is less generalizing and less defensiveness when called on it.
Also, thank you to the many many many people in this thread who have been talking about their experiences and not feeding the teachers, especially public school teachers are wrong vibe. I meant to say that in my first post, but I was also busy trying to leave school so I could go home and finish grading.
I just went back and re-read Dylan's posts, and I honestly can't find anything that criticized public schools and teachers in general as opposed to his particular experience in a particular school system in a particular time.
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All times, for me.It's just delicious.
What would be nice though would be an acknowledgement that what you said could be read as offensive. What I personally would like to see is less generalizing and less defensiveness when called on it.This is a good way to post in general, to me.
cassie, can you IM a sec?
The rest were too busy getting drunk or writing out detention slips or planning on their retirement to teach.
I think this is what is getting me, Susan. Sure he's talking about his experience, but he's painting a pretty broad brush stroke that is easily read as applying to more than just his experience.
And I totally get that you are saying that he's talking about his experience. I'd be more willing to let it go or ignore if this were the first time he's said something incendiary and insensitive, but it isn't. Cause if whether he's talking about Seattle or telling "fuckhead" board members to "burn in motherfucking hell" or if he's talking about how much public school sucks, I've never seen him really just say,"Oops. I offended. Sorry." In fact, even acknowledging that one has "over-over-over-over-over-reacted " is not quite the same as saying "whoa. Sorry. I'll try not to do that again."
So maybe, in light of that, I'm not really willing to let it go or ignore it.
I mean, frankly my particular public school system was terrible for me too, despite quite a few fine and dedicated teachers. But the system wasn't really designed for kids like me, and while I did learn some great things in school, on the balance I got into a top college and did well there despite my K-12 education rather than because of it. I floundered in calculus and even had to work a bit at my non-major's science requirements because my pre-collegiate foundation was so lousy. I would've been completely out of my depth in a real collegiate biology, physics, or chemistry class, and I struggled in economics, because I was so weak WRT math.
But I don't know if I can say that the public schools in my corner of Alabama in the 70's and 80's did a lousy job of preparing me for college and for a future anywhere outside that podunk town without being accused of teacher-bashing.