Mal: Yeah, well, just be careful. We cheated Badger out of good money to buy that frippery, and you're supposed to make me look respectable. Kaylee: Yes, sir, Captain Tightpants.

'Shindig'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Lee - Nov 17, 2005 6:39:26 pm PST #5444 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

All times, for me. I've got a bottle of '99 Dom, Mumm's, and Veuve. Which I have to move to SF. NYE, anyone?

hmm.


erikaj - Nov 17, 2005 6:40:23 pm PST #5445 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

I can't imagine doing that and have, imo, had teachers be unfair to me because of The Chair Thing. But I felt like I could not prove it so set my attention to kicking ass in their classes instead. And I did, mostly, because "fuck you" always has been a strong motivator for me, if not my favorite.


Emily - Nov 17, 2005 6:41:17 pm PST #5446 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I've started getting letters from family lawyers saying that they are "very concerned" that Joe Freshman wasn't graded fairly in my class and wouldn't I rather resolve this informally.

Wow. Grade mafia.


SuziQ - Nov 17, 2005 6:44:22 pm PST #5447 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

NYE, anyone?

Ooooh yeah!


Kat - Nov 17, 2005 6:45:00 pm PST #5448 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Actually, I was thinking about this on the way home from work.

Parents should definitely learn how to advocate for their students in a way that makes the teacher not hate the kid. I'll admit that when a parent comes in with guns blazing at me, as has happened once this year, it actually doesn't do anything but squash my desire to help the kid.

So, if you want to advocate in a positive way for your child, go in without thinking that the teacher is an idiot, a person just costing until summer or whatever, because if you do, you will quite potentially turn that teacher against your kid which is the very opposite of your intent.

Dylan, I don't need you to apologize for offending me because that's not how I'm wired. What would be nice though would be an acknowledgement that what you said could be read as offensive. What I personally would like to see is less generalizing and less defensiveness when called on it.

Also, thank you to the many many many people in this thread who have been talking about their experiences and not feeding the teachers, especially public school teachers are wrong vibe. I meant to say that in my first post, but I was also busy trying to leave school so I could go home and finish grading.


Susan W. - Nov 17, 2005 6:56:03 pm PST #5449 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just went back and re-read Dylan's posts, and I honestly can't find anything that criticized public schools and teachers in general as opposed to his particular experience in a particular school system in a particular time.


Cass - Nov 17, 2005 6:57:32 pm PST #5450 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

waves something shiny
mesmerized

All times, for me.
It's just delicious.

What would be nice though would be an acknowledgement that what you said could be read as offensive. What I personally would like to see is less generalizing and less defensiveness when called on it.
This is a good way to post in general, to me.


Trudy Booth - Nov 17, 2005 7:01:11 pm PST #5451 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

cassie, can you IM a sec?


Kat - Nov 17, 2005 7:06:11 pm PST #5452 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The rest were too busy getting drunk or writing out detention slips or planning on their retirement to teach.

I think this is what is getting me, Susan. Sure he's talking about his experience, but he's painting a pretty broad brush stroke that is easily read as applying to more than just his experience.

And I totally get that you are saying that he's talking about his experience. I'd be more willing to let it go or ignore if this were the first time he's said something incendiary and insensitive, but it isn't. Cause if whether he's talking about Seattle or telling "fuckhead" board members to "burn in motherfucking hell" or if he's talking about how much public school sucks, I've never seen him really just say,"Oops. I offended. Sorry." In fact, even acknowledging that one has "over-over-over-over-over-reacted " is not quite the same as saying "whoa. Sorry. I'll try not to do that again."

So maybe, in light of that, I'm not really willing to let it go or ignore it.


Susan W. - Nov 17, 2005 7:09:15 pm PST #5453 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I mean, frankly my particular public school system was terrible for me too, despite quite a few fine and dedicated teachers. But the system wasn't really designed for kids like me, and while I did learn some great things in school, on the balance I got into a top college and did well there despite my K-12 education rather than because of it. I floundered in calculus and even had to work a bit at my non-major's science requirements because my pre-collegiate foundation was so lousy. I would've been completely out of my depth in a real collegiate biology, physics, or chemistry class, and I struggled in economics, because I was so weak WRT math.

But I don't know if I can say that the public schools in my corner of Alabama in the 70's and 80's did a lousy job of preparing me for college and for a future anywhere outside that podunk town without being accused of teacher-bashing.