Gah. Really?
Yeah. Then you watch their poor brains explode when you throw an ectopic pregnancy at them.
I'd rather stay home and watch television. It's often funnier than killing stuff.
Anya ,'Dirty Girls'
Natter 39 and Holding
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
dw - Oct 03, 2005 2:12:58 pm PDT #2988 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval
Jesse - Oct 03, 2005 2:14:21 pm PDT #2989 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
A little kid raising money for school by bringing candy RIGHT TO YOU?
Sadly, she didn't even bring the candy to me. I had to order it.
I have a non-SCOTUS legal (kinda?) question: I just saw an ad that described the product as "patent pending." Does that mean that someone has actually said the application has some merit, or just that they filled out the patent application?
Topic!Cindy - Oct 03, 2005 2:25:42 pm PDT #2990 of 10002
What is even happening?
Only the real nutjobs would drop health (since, generally, "health" includes "will having this baby kill her?") and the super-nutjobs drop life. The loony reasoning is "doctors would lie." Yeah, so?Why am I thinking that the ban on so-called "partial birth" abortions does not make an exception for the health of the mother?
Tom Scola - Oct 03, 2005 2:31:10 pm PDT #2991 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Tom DeLay indicted. Again.
Burrell - Oct 03, 2005 2:32:43 pm PDT #2992 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Why am I thinking that the ban on so-called "partial birth" abortions does not make an exception for the health of the mother?
My understanding is that the ban on Dilation & Extraction abortions does not mean that all late term abortions are banned. It simply places a ban on the preferred method. There are other methods, but these put the mother at a much higher risk for complications.
Jesse - Oct 03, 2005 2:34:19 pm PDT #2993 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
My understanding is that the ban on Dilation & Extraction abortions does not mean that all late term abortions are banned. It simply places a ban on the preferred method. There are other methods, but these put the mother at a much higher risk for complications.
Yeah, it's even just Intact D&E, IIRC. But I don't really want to get into it.
Topic!Cindy - Oct 03, 2005 2:34:21 pm PDT #2994 of 10002
What is even happening?
It simply places a ban on the preferred method. There are other methods, but these put the mother at a much higher risk for complications.Am I right in thinking there's an exception for the life of the mother with the D&E (thanks--the term completely slipped my brain, before), but not for her health?
Aims - Oct 03, 2005 2:38:45 pm PDT #2995 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.
As far as I understood the ban, it was, "No way, no how, no matter what. Even Mom." I could be wrong.
dw - Oct 03, 2005 2:40:32 pm PDT #2996 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval
Why am I thinking that the ban on so-called "partial birth" abortions does not make an exception for the health of the mother?
That's why the Congressional ban got flipped by the SCOTUS -- no "life and health" clause.
Some think the eliding of "health" was the real test of the SCOTUS, not the ban on D&E.
Burrell - Oct 03, 2005 2:41:20 pm PDT #2997 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Thanks Jesse.