I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


Spike's Bitches 26: Damn right I'm impure!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Betsy HP - Oct 06, 2005 7:56:56 am PDT #6794 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

But you still haven't explained to me why it's weird to be curious about your audience.

But you aren't saying "I'm curious about my audience"; you're saying "my audience owes it to me to explain themselves."


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2005 7:58:11 am PDT #6795 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you're saying "my audience owes it to me to explain themselves."

You're attaching very hard to the "should," and I take that responsibility upon myself -- it would be really cool if people told me why they friended me.

Are we done now?

I'm still not sure why you're equating people who've friended me and audience still, but I don't have any other words to explain the distinction.


Betsy HP - Oct 06, 2005 8:00:56 am PDT #6796 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I guess I'm saying that to me, they're the same thing; people who've friended me are people who read me.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 06, 2005 8:02:54 am PDT #6797 of 10001
What is even happening?

I think LJ's filtering option (as well as the use of "friend") makes it feel different from a random blog roll. There are people here I really like, and enjoy reading whom I've never "friended" on lj, because it felt like overstepping.


Aims - Oct 06, 2005 8:03:20 am PDT #6798 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

[link]

Next on the gay agenda....


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2005 8:03:57 am PDT #6799 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

people who've friended me are people who read me

How can you possibly know that the two sets are identical? I've been told before that I don't read LJs that I patently do read, and I find the attachment to that statement peculiar. My friendslist is most precisely who can read my generically friendslocked posts. However, with filters, it need neither be who I read, nor who can read all my locked posts, and I routinely read LJs that aren't on my list.

It seems a bit shortsighted to lend any weight to their equivalence -- not quite as naive as assuming that your posts on the internet are only going to a known subset, but ... along those lines.


Betsy HP - Oct 06, 2005 8:06:12 am PDT #6800 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

This is really interesting -- there are two paradigms here, and I think people are bumping up against each other and being confused because the etiquette doesn't match.

For me, LJ and Blogger are broadcast media; I put 'em out, anybody can read 'em, and anybody can respond. I have no control of what happens after they go out. Similarly, I read other people's LJs without assuming that creates any sort of bond between us.

If I want control, I use friendslock, and I use exclusive filter lists. The only time I use my generic friendslist is when I mean "I don't want this accessible to Google or to random people, but I don't consider it private." Serious stuff goes on "closefriends", who are the people I actually know.

For ita and Cindy (and many others, I see them on my friendslists), LJ is more like a party: you invite people, people show up and say "Is it okay if I join in?, and it's rude to show up unannounced.


Connie Neil - Oct 06, 2005 8:06:51 am PDT #6801 of 10001
brillig

Next on the gay agenda....

And slash writers everywhere rub their hands together and cackle.


dw - Oct 06, 2005 8:07:14 am PDT #6802 of 10001
Silence means security silence means approval

The last quote in the HP-is-gay article is priceless:

"I didn't set out to offend. I'm a priest and I'm very careful about not offending people."

As we used to say on the Usenet, he owes me a new monitor.


Aims - Oct 06, 2005 8:07:50 am PDT #6803 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

How did that first day in Charms go? "Flick your wrist"?