This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Spike's Bitches 26: Damn right I'm impure!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Laura - Oct 03, 2005 8:17:22 am PDT #5981 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

There are no grades for homework?

My best guess is that some Boca Raton parents group sued the school board when little Johnny didn't get an A.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 03, 2005 8:31:38 am PDT #5982 of 10001
What is even happening?

My kids are graded for homework. I can't understand it not counting toward some (even a small) percentage of their overall grade.

It is a generalization, Cindy, but I think it's a generally good one. I know my sister could deal with her son better than with her daughter, and her husband could deal with the daughter better. There's variance within the genders, too, though - like Calli, my sister and I had completely different reactions to our mother (except I was the one with the screaming fights).
Yeah, there's variance even in my household, which was the model for my gross generalization. Ben and I are powerfully alike--IN SOME WAYS. Where those ways are concerned, Scott actually does better with Ben, probably because he (Scott) understands me so well. But when it's a power struggle sort of issue, Scott generally gets through to Julia better, and I generally get through to Ben, better. Another variance is that I generally understand Chris better. Chris is powerfully like Scott IN SOME WAYS, and powerfully like (parts of me, some of which Ben doesn't seem to share) IN SOME WAYS.

Basically, parenting is a tremendous crap shoot.


Laura - Oct 03, 2005 8:32:26 am PDT #5983 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Second best guess is that stopping grading homework raises the school's overall scores and makes the schools (and Jeb) look good. Shortsighted R Us.


vw bug - Oct 03, 2005 8:39:38 am PDT #5984 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

I made it through both of my classes, got lunch and am now at work with a BIG task. Hopefully I can focus enough to get it done.

edit: UGH. I have no idea what I'm doing. What have I gotten myself into?


beth b - Oct 03, 2005 8:46:00 am PDT #5985 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I'm not pleased with the destruction part, but he will have to fix or replace what broke. I don't really think that I can tame 13 yo hormones instantly to prevent screaming and tossing chairs, but I hope that he will learn quickly that for his actions there are consequences.

can't stop them mid-rage that's for sure.

So if dentention - which from what I remember as a kid was boreing - sitting in a room either writting lines, doing homework or stareing at a wall - is the stick, where is the carrot? While I can't pretend to understand that homework doesn't count- I wonder if teachers could count it as extra points to add to a grade...doing 100% of you homework will add x to your test score ,90% x-1 , and 80% x-2.

that might have motived me, an a/b/c student - even more than homework counting as a general % of a grade.


Laura - Oct 03, 2005 8:55:32 am PDT #5986 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I'm sure individual teachers have incentives, as do parents. It does count at the middle school level. When I have had conferences on the subject in the past it boils down to the teachers telling me I have to make the kid do his work. Not real helpful.


Betsy HP - Oct 03, 2005 8:58:39 am PDT #5987 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

When I have had conferences on the subject in the past it boils down to the teachers telling me I have to make the kid do his work. Not real helpful.

I am Laura.


DavidS - Oct 03, 2005 9:06:02 am PDT #5988 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've been fortunate so far that Emmett is fairly diligent and conscientious about doing his homework. I think this is mostly due to two things which have nothing to do with me: (1) his school emphasized homework from grade one, though for the first two years it was really just to inculcate the habit of doing the homework; (2) his current aftercare sits all the kids down at 4pm and they spent 45 minutes doing homework, no exceptions. (The advantage of the aftercare being in University Village where UC houses all it's grad student families.)

His only real problem (which is a work problem for me as well) is that he zips through his work like a speed trial without enough attention to detail. It's something to get over, rather than do properly in many instances.

As for father/son dynamics, I know that Emmett's angry responses trigger similarly angry/aggressive responses in me that I have to sidestep. Not that often though - he's most likely to get upset when he's frustrated and that's easier to sympathize with.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 03, 2005 9:08:18 am PDT #5989 of 10001
What is even happening?

His only real problem (which is a work problem for me as well) is that he zips through his work like a speed trial without enough attention to detail. It's something to get over, rather than do properly in many instances.

This is 99% of Ben's problem with school. There's nothing that's been introduced so far that's proven too challenging for him. But he is a naturally fast reader, and thinks that it is more important to read quickly than well. I'm trying to disabuse him of that notion, because when he does get stuff wrong on homework and tests, as often as not, it's because he didn't read the directions properly.


Fred Pete - Oct 03, 2005 9:11:05 am PDT #5990 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Cindy, I had similar problems as a kid. I was lucky and got a fair number of chances to do independent study projects. Might that sort of thing help Ben? Might his teachers go for such an idea?