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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Beverly - Nov 11, 2005 12:49:13 pm PST #979 of 5730
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Tracy Walter and William Sanderson are somewhat confuseable, being atypical in looks and character actors extraordinaire. If Sanderson hadn't gotten the Newhart gig (Larry, of "I'm Larry, this is my brother Daryll, and this is my other brother Daryll" fame), he'd be as obscure as Mr. Walter.

Who, I must confess, since he appeared as a character named "Frog" in some long-ago tv western sitcom (yes. for about three episodes), is usually "Frog" to me.


victor infante - Nov 11, 2005 4:14:27 pm PST #980 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

OK, so Thessaly and I have watched a truly obscene amount of "Veronica Mars in the past few weeks, catching us all the way up to date, including the most recent. (Was the title "Rat Saw God"? I forget.)

And I'll admit I'm hooked. It's shaken itself out of it's early flounderings of not knowing what kind of show it wanted to be, and it's found its own voice. Plus, they can write an overarching mystery line, which is nice. Now if only they can stop trying to make Kristen Bell look like Sarah Michelle Gellar, it'll be perfect. (Oh, and OK, get her back together with Logan.)

Still not sure how the individual pieces of this one fit together -- the bus crash, the guy Logan allegedly stabbed, Logan's house burning down, the stunt man with Veronica's name on his hand (and in super-duper ink, at that!)

Not sure yet, but I think the place to be looking is at Veronica's comment about Weevil not being as in control of his gang as he thinks he is. All of which begs the question, who stands to gain from class tensions being esacerbated? Lamb? The new mayor? Not enough information.

Still, I'm hooked. I hope you people are happy.


sumi - Nov 11, 2005 4:34:15 pm PST #981 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

I agree with people (here? On WX?) who suggested that the in-show reason for Veronica growing her hair long is because she is trying to get to that happy pre-Lilly's murder place.

If there is some reason that KB wants to have longer hair, I don't know what that would be.


DebetEsse - Nov 11, 2005 4:35:23 pm PST #982 of 5730
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think it's totally a symbolic thing.

I'm waiting for something to happen to spur it back to short, because I think it's coming.


tiggy - Nov 11, 2005 4:46:08 pm PST #983 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

glad to hear your hooked, victor. also a L/V 'shipper. exxxxxxxxxxxcellent...

I'm waiting for something to happen to spur it back to short, because I think it's coming.

I hope so. i miss the cute hairstyles they could give her with the short hair. i hate her hair parted down the middle. makes her look older and just not as pretty.


Laura - Nov 12, 2005 5:44:01 am PST #984 of 5730
Our wings are not tired.

Ok, I finally watched. Random and rambling thoughts. Rather lengthy it turns out.

First, Joss is so adorable I just want to hug the stuffing out of him. Fan boy.

Poor Veronica she broke my heart watching the sheriff election returns. Keith is all “it was the best thing for the investigation” big picture guy. You know, it was a time to be pissed off and immature, not all sensible in control guy. He clearly knows some shit about this bus crash that he isn’t sharing with Veronica.

Cliff was extra fun. “I promise to hold his hair back if he has to make sick in the toilet.” Hee

I gotta say I found the mayor’s daughter rather fun this week. I didn’t care for her previous showing.

So who the heck is the guy who made the anonymous call from the bridge?

I miss Wallace almost as much as Veronica.

More random – every time I type Veronica I think of a daughter of a friend of mine named Veronica. Her mom only called her that when she was in trouble. We called her Ronni all the time.

Poor Logan really doesn’t like the thought of Dickhead perving on his mom. Jason did a fabulous job this week with the Logan attitude. Most impressive. Tore me up. Every single scene was perfect.

The Amelia search wasn’t very interesting most of the time for me. Awww on her doing the right thing in the end with daddy. I’m thinking there has to be some future thing here maybe.

The Cliff and Logan show was real entertainment folks.

Putting Logan in the cell with his father was, well farfetched. Aaron was so very unsympathetic, although I love leaving the Duncan as murderer option open. How much do I love Keith? His scene with Aaron so yummy!

Clarence! He knows how to do tough guy bless his heart.

The character of Weevil annoys me. So much potential, yet misused. I get the appeal of the badass with a soft underbelly, but the softness shouldn’t be so transparent. It’s just disappointing every time he appears and I wish it weren’t. So burning down Logan’s house was pretty badass, but still not impressed. Doing it because of his justifiable hatred of Logan would have pleased me more than doing it to reestablish his cred with the boys. Also, he fights like a girl.

Now Lamb is a decent badass with no moral compass. Except the “what was your address again?” line bugged me. Like they would refer to the address and not just say Echolls estate. He does really pull off bad guy well though.

Now I totally get Veronica working with Clarence in a that makes sense kind of way, but I don’t get any reason for Keith to work with Lamb at all unless he thinks Lamb was in some way involved with the crash.

Skeevy motel clerk real good skeeve.

Ewwwww rat!

Random odd thought. I think the new mayor has an evil side.


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2005 6:21:51 am PST #985 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don’t get any reason for Keith to work with Lamb at all unless he thinks Lamb was in some way involved with the crash.

Well, Lamb has the sheriff's department's resources (e.g., ballistics) at his disposal. And they've worked together before, albeit unwillingly.

Random odd thought. I think the new mayor has an evil side.

No question. Otherwise, he serves no purpose. Most likely, he's wrapped up in Terrence's gambling scheme (c.f. the argument in the premiere).


victor infante - Nov 12, 2005 7:18:10 am PST #986 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Putting Logan in the cell with his father was, well farfetched. Aaron was so very unsympathetic, although I love leaving the Duncan as murderer option open. How much do I love Keith? His scene with Aaron so yummy!

Keith can do the scary very well. Putting Aaron and Logan in the same cell was far-fetched, but then again, the town lock-up probably isn't that big. Plus, I think Lamb was just being cruel locking them together.

So burning down Logan’s house was pretty badass, but still not impressed.

Not entirely convined Weevil did it, actually. Still think he's being set up, possibly for a gang takeover, but I have to admit, we've seen no real candidates for that role.

Random odd thought. I think the new mayor has an evil side.

He's really my prime suspect for the big manipulator here, although if he arranged for the bus to crash, then the target might not have been Veronica after all -- it might have been his daughter.

Stay with me here:

  • He had no way to know his daughter wouldn't be on that bus, just as no one knew Veronica wouldn't be.

  • Curly was hired to do the job because of the bus stunt. When it all went to Hell (really, either way with both girls surviving) Curly was killed, and it was set up to look like a hit on Veronica. Because really? Everyone would buy it. She is a big shiny distraction.

  • The crux of the matter is Jackie's dad's baseball debts, but beyond that, I don'thave enough information.

  • The class conflicts exaggerated by the the murder Logan allegedly committed spread enough discontent to get a new mayor elected, but they've not gone too deep into that yet.


victor infante - Nov 12, 2005 7:22:35 am PST #987 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Oh, and yes, I totally ship Logan and Veronica. Duncan has no chemistry with anybody. I mean, the borderline autism is part of the character, I can accept that, but his BBoC factor is that he's, effectively, a BBoC.


Laura - Nov 12, 2005 7:35:37 am PST #988 of 5730
Our wings are not tired.

He's really my prime suspect for the big manipulator here, although if he arranged for the bus to crash, then the target might not have been Veronica after all -- it might have been his daughter.

Yeah, that's the same direction my mind has been spinning. There are an abundance of loose ends. I like that.

Plus, I think Lamb was just being cruel locking them together.

That's the only thing that makes sense. And it led to fun scenes so it's all good.