Lilly, Veronica's mother with the name I can't spell, and Trina were all about as recurring as Mac and Meg. As were Mrs. Kane and Logan's mom.

Lilly's painted as a charming, scheming whore. Trina's a selfish and shallow bitch. Logan's mother sits by and drinks while Aaron beats him. Mrs. Kane, compared to Mr. Kane, is a cold and nasty woman.

I wrote some of this up in comments when I was first watching, and I'll see if I can find them.

Wouldn't any normal woman - after finding out he was seeing a rabbi - have stopped Veronica's investigation there?

Wouldn't any normal woman - after finding out he was seeing a rabbi - have stopped Veronica's investigation there?

I certainly think so. I think they were trying to make a point about the stupidity of constantly suspecting those you love of badness, and how the very suspicion can get you in trouble, or something like that. Though I guess I see the point of that, I would have gotten more pure emotional satisfaction out of a much longer build to the rabbi reveal, and her stopping the investigations with that. But that's because that scene really pinged me personally, right now in my life, for various reasons, and so had much more emotional effect on me than it probably should've.

Plei, I actually remember your comments, and see your point, now that you mention the adults. I sort of forget they exist sometimes, except for Keith. I guess Mr. Casablancas is the only Bad Adult Male we've seen, yet, who hasn't been given at least a throwaway backstory to help explain his badness. As for Lilly, well, yeah, again, I have to say I see your point. I think we're supposed to see her as a Logan-type, though, only we don't get the time to see the inner depth or whatever because, you know, dead.

at the same time, I wonder if the woman really loved her BF. It kind of seems like she didn't because she kept pushing and pushing. She gave him up too easily.

Yeah, there were definitely fun points to the episode, but overall it was kinda eh.

I suppose not every episode can be perfection.

But I'm just bitter that Amazon took four days to even SHIP my DVDs I just ordered of 1st season, god knows when I'll actually get them!

Oh, I totally think that this week's mystery was totally to point out to Veronica how easily she was slipping into the same mode.

I guess Mr. Casablancas is the only Bad Adult Male we've seen, yet, who hasn't been given at least a throwaway backstory to help explain his badness

How about the guy who strangled people with guitar strings. Or the Russian mafia guys, or the Sheriff? Or the teacher that diddled his pupils? Just off the top of my head.

I just saw this week's episode and in general I agree with overall meh-ness of it. I am enjoying the Duncan and Veronica interaction. Both the couple-y sleeping over though not necessarily having the great sex and the pulling back on full out spying on Duncan in spite of his Meg hospital stalking. I also just liked the overall teenage truthfullness of having everybody sneaking out (aside from Duncan) to do things behind nosy parents' backs at 3am. Then again I grew up on Army bases so perhaps I am over relating. It was pretty silly that Mac had make-up on though.

I'm so glad that the co-ed scene pinged other people, too. I'm watching it right now and cringing and being all "Where's that Veronica Mars show that I like?".

Back to the episode.

Lilty! I got your postcard! Thank you!

Also, I don't know why the coed scene is so ping-y for people. Veronica's pulled that act numerous times in the past to get information from guys.