Angel: Is that what you think you are--a hero? Spike: Saved the world didn't I? Angel: Once. Talk to me after you've done it a couple more times.

'Destiny'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Kalshane - Oct 20, 2005 6:08:14 am PDT #802 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I enjoyed the episode, but the trying to break into the house thing didn't make any sense. (Also, why Mac would bother putting on makeup to sneak out of the house at 3am to help Veronica hack Meg's computer.)

I'm not sure, but I could have sworn Lamb said something about Alicia's ex being undercover or something. The stuff Keith rattled off sounded like he had done a background check on the ex but got the cover story instead of the real info. (Which would make sense, since being undercover isn't going to help you a lot if the criminals can easily access your real info. Whereas a law enforcment officer, like Lamb, would have the authorization to get the real story.)

Have no idea why Alicia's not being honest with Keith, though.


Hayden - Oct 20, 2005 6:13:15 am PDT #803 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I didn't catch Lamb say anything at all about undercover, and I actually watched that scene twice (because I came in late and missed the first half). But the ex being undercover is the only explanation that makes sense right now.

But yeah, none of that "drive by slowly-break into the house-be snippy but unthreatened by current boyfriend-confront Wallace later" stuff made a damn bit of sense out of that character.

And the A-story was marred by my complete inability to imagine the rather noble boyfriend and conniving, hysterical girlfriend in any situation together. It was wise of the show to keep them apart throughout the episode.

Oh, and lastly, how would Weevil & gang crash Logan's party without significant violence and/or arrests? Haven't we been repeatedly told that they're at war with each other?


bon bon - Oct 20, 2005 6:24:14 am PDT #804 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Still love me some Lamb.

And the A-story was marred by my complete inability to imagine the rather noble boyfriend and conniving, hysterical girlfriend in any situation together. It was wise of the show to keep them apart throughout the episode.

Agreed. OTOH I think we're supposed to take from that that jealousy forces even rational people to indulge in hysteria.

Re: the party-- I wondered why we hadn't heard any more about Logan's poor taste party since the mention in the second episode. But I appreciate the fact that they seeded that early.


P.M. Marc - Oct 20, 2005 6:28:07 am PDT #805 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The A story just got on my nerves. The woman felt like the worst sort of JAP stereotype, which had me sort of tilting my head sideways and wondering why, exactly, they'd decided to go that particular route.

Jon, I'm still not quite able to put what bothers me about the way women on the show--especially case-of-the-week women--are written into words. It's probably something like my problem with this week's A plot (only minus the ethnic stereotyping), where things feel too often like they're drawing from negative stereotypes of female behavior.


Strix - Oct 20, 2005 6:40:27 am PDT #806 of 5730
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Last night's ep was ok....except it made me realize I also have a severe case of itchy panties for Logan. Um, yeah.

Bitchy, bitchy Logan. I missed last week's ep due to falling asleep at 6:15 p.m. -- did Logan and Dorkan get into a fight?


Jon B. - Oct 20, 2005 6:41:03 am PDT #807 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I've never thought of the "jealous lover" as a gender-specific thing. It could just as easily have been a jealous boyfriend wanting to check of on his girl. And we would have been spared the silly co-ed scene.

the worst sort of JAP stereotype

That pinged me, but only a teeny bit. Hey -- Jews, Irish Catholics -- at least they're equal opportunity offenders.


bon bon - Oct 20, 2005 6:59:30 am PDT #808 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'd be interested in your analysis, Plei. I'm not sure the show isn't an equal opportunity stereotyper in portraying characters with base motives. Case-of-the-week guys should as one-dimensional as the women. Take, say, M.A.D., with the homophobic, blackmailing jealous boyfriend. Most of the guys on this show-- with the exception of Keith and Wallace-- have violent streak. On the other hand, most of the women are unfaithful.


P.M. Marc - Oct 20, 2005 7:12:28 am PDT #809 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

With a few exceptions, like M.A.D. guy and stepdude in The Girl Next Door, they manage to work in an explanation/sympathetic backstory for the violent guys. Sure, Aaron's a son-whumping, piece-of-ass murdering crazy man, but he, too, was the product of an abusive home! As is Logan, natch. Sure, Duncan's prone to hyper rage blackouts, but that's just part of his Luxan physiology! (Actually, if I picture D'argo in the Duncan role, Duncan is suddenly way more entertaining.) Weevil loves his Granny.

I don't see as much rounding out of the female characters. I live, however, in hope.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 20, 2005 8:10:39 am PDT #810 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Sure, Duncan's prone to hyper rage blackouts, but that's just part of his Luxan physiology! (Actually, if I picture D'argo in the Duncan role, Duncan is suddenly way more entertaining.) Weevil loves his Granny.

See, after bringing in the FARSCAPE reference you've got me imagining Weevil mooning over Naranti. It's not a pretty picture.

Though I am undeniably amused by imagining D'Argo as Duncan.


P.M. Marc - Oct 20, 2005 10:56:49 am PDT #811 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

See, after bringing in the FARSCAPE reference you've got me imagining Weevil mooning over Naranti. It's not a pretty picture.

It's not, but it made me laugh and laugh and laugh.