Admittedly, I haven't actually read the interviews with Rob, I've just heard about them secondhand through pissed fans on Tumblr / Twitter. But apparently, yes, he believes he's doing "not what we want, but what we need". And also that a married thirtysomething female PI is "not believable" and she needs to be available for sex relationships, which makes every feminist bone in my body rage with hellfire. And something something strong woman has to suffer "because noir!" Oh, hell no.
She doesn't have to be broken. She was so strong as a teenager!
This is such a better summary of my ragey feelings!
(What is the saying? Writers who think that people in stable relationships are boring are in actuality just bad writers?)
But, what I wanted was not a Logan/Veronica wedding after I had been clearly shown they were, at that time, u suited to each other and Veronica was actually toxic to Logan. I might have wanted a non toxic Logan/Veronica where he was just away most of the time and she was detecting, or one where she was grown up and he was toxic (isn't he the femme fatale) or one where they got married and it was awful and they had to deal with it. Any number of things. But I could not believe that the Veronica I had been shown should be happily married to the Logan I was shown and that one really hot dream about Leo would lead her to that conclusion for real (rather than fooling herself)! So it is also just internally inconsistent
Any of those would have been so much more interesting and logical than what we got!
Just watched the last episode last night, and wow, I am angry! Killing Logan off in that way felt so cheap and manipulative. I don't really care if they're together or not, and their relationship certainly had its issues, but for him to die that way, right after their wedding, with no time to actually show any of the consequences of his death, just enough to show how traumatized Veronica is once again, made me furious. She deserves better! Even he deserves better!
On the whole, the thing that felt weirdest to me about this season is how little we saw anyone grieving. Mattie and her dad, Maloof's brother and his fiancee, even the father of the kid in the collar bomb: nobody seemed to be especially broken up about their losses. We saw a bit of Mattie grieving in the beginning, but she pretty quickly turned into a single-minded super-sleuth instead. It just seemed odd to me.
Meh. I'm mad. And, like Cindy, feeling like I'm done with VM. I don't feel any real desire to watch any new episodes. Maybe I'll change my mind with time, but I'm feeling pretty sour about it right now.
I love that Veronica as a character has huge issues. I really do. Because that hasn't traditionally been something media gives us in women protagonists. But she already had hella issues without blowing Logan up. That was super unnecessary. And if Rob Thomas thinks it's not possible to tell interesting stories about a married female PI, then he's more of a hack than I thought.
I love that Veronica as a character has huge issues. I really do. Because that hasn't traditionally been something media gives us in women protagonists. But she already had hella issues without blowing Logan up. That was super unnecessary. And if Rob Thomas thinks it's not possible to tell interesting stories about a married female PI, then he's more of a hack than I thought.
I can understand Rob not wanting Veronica tied down, and not wanting to tie her down specifically to a high school boyfriend. I mostly think if he wanted to kill Logan, the season should have been about his murder. Fans had no time to process it, and worse, had no time to see Veronica process it.
I think he sees puts her forth as a noir protagonist, but then he writes all the other (good) characters propping her up as a superhero. I think Keith even said that term in season four. There are no (real) heroes in noir, and she doesn't have to be one. You want a grown-up show, Rob? Write a noir story, not a Buffy-without-superpowers story.
Just watched the last episode last night, and wow, I am angry! Killing Logan off in that way felt so cheap and manipulative. I don't really care if they're together or not, and their relationship certainly had its issues, but for him to die that way, right after their wedding, with no time to actually show any of the consequences of his death, just enough to show how traumatized Veronica is once again, made me furious. She deserves better! Even he deserves better!
I'm sorry. It sucks to feel like that after such a long wait.
VM S4 is the kind of thing I want to remake entirely. I want to take his show from him and remake it.
If this were 15 years ago, we could rewrite it, like the Buffistas rewrote "Spiral."
