Any of those would have been so much more interesting and logical than what we got!
You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Una - Sep 10, 2019 7:42:33 pm PDT #5727 of 5730
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.
Kate P. - Sep 11, 2019 8:28:47 am PDT #5728 of 5730
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Just watched the last episode last night, and wow, I am angry! Killing Logan off in that way felt so cheap and manipulative. I don't really care if they're together or not, and their relationship certainly had its issues, but for him to die that way, right after their wedding, with no time to actually show any of the consequences of his death, just enough to show how traumatized Veronica is once again, made me furious. She deserves better! Even he deserves better!
On the whole, the thing that felt weirdest to me about this season is how little we saw anyone grieving. Mattie and her dad, Maloof's brother and his fiancee, even the father of the kid in the collar bomb: nobody seemed to be especially broken up about their losses. We saw a bit of Mattie grieving in the beginning, but she pretty quickly turned into a single-minded super-sleuth instead. It just seemed odd to me.
Meh. I'm mad. And, like Cindy, feeling like I'm done with VM. I don't feel any real desire to watch any new episodes. Maybe I'll change my mind with time, but I'm feeling pretty sour about it right now.
Steph L. - Sep 11, 2019 8:38:08 am PDT #5729 of 5730
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.
I love that Veronica as a character has huge issues. I really do. Because that hasn't traditionally been something media gives us in women protagonists. But she already had hella issues without blowing Logan up. That was super unnecessary. And if Rob Thomas thinks it's not possible to tell interesting stories about a married female PI, then he's more of a hack than I thought.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 25, 2019 7:02:43 pm PDT #5730 of 5730
What is even happening?
I love that Veronica as a character has huge issues. I really do. Because that hasn't traditionally been something media gives us in women protagonists. But she already had hella issues without blowing Logan up. That was super unnecessary. And if Rob Thomas thinks it's not possible to tell interesting stories about a married female PI, then he's more of a hack than I thought.
I can understand Rob not wanting Veronica tied down, and not wanting to tie her down specifically to a high school boyfriend. I mostly think if he wanted to kill Logan, the season should have been about his murder. Fans had no time to process it, and worse, had no time to see Veronica process it.
I think he sees puts her forth as a noir protagonist, but then he writes all the other (good) characters propping her up as a superhero. I think Keith even said that term in season four. There are no (real) heroes in noir, and she doesn't have to be one. You want a grown-up show, Rob? Write a noir story, not a Buffy-without-superpowers story.
Just watched the last episode last night, and wow, I am angry! Killing Logan off in that way felt so cheap and manipulative. I don't really care if they're together or not, and their relationship certainly had its issues, but for him to die that way, right after their wedding, with no time to actually show any of the consequences of his death, just enough to show how traumatized Veronica is once again, made me furious. She deserves better! Even he deserves better!
I'm sorry. It sucks to feel like that after such a long wait.
VM S4 is the kind of thing I want to remake entirely. I want to take his show from him and remake it.
If this were 15 years ago, we could rewrite it, like the Buffistas rewrote "Spiral."