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Jon B. - Mar 02, 2007 5:10:06 pm PST #5202 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

how was he able to plant the disk with the recorded phone conversations in Richard Grieco's living room?

I thought he had a key to the house.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 02, 2007 10:08:41 pm PST #5203 of 5730
What is even happening?

when did Tim have the opportunity to plant a bug Veronica's phone
This bugged me, too. I'm just trying to accept he did. If she were someone else, that would be easier.

I thought he had a key to the house.

I think he had a key to Landry's house. Veronica got the key to Grieco's house from the Sheriff's evidence room, right?

Ack, confused now.

Wait. Was the recording in Grieco's house or Landry's?


esse - Mar 03, 2007 1:30:00 am PST #5204 of 5730
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

You know, I'm okay with Landry not getting what was going on, because it shows him as an interestingly flawed character--the man who taught about profiling but couldn't see through his own problems to get out himself. It's the alternate Veronica in a way--she did see through her own problems and struggles to find Lilly's killer. I think it works to show that Landry really was right--Veronica is remarkable. Okay, maybe it doesn't need to be said, but I like it anyway.

I will laugh if TA Tim is brought back last season.

Also, I think that since they've spent this half of the season building up Veronica and Keith's relationship, at times to the expense of her other relationships, like with Wallace and Mac, it would be interesting to watch it be tested against the sheriff-PI divide.

Though I still think it's lame for Mac and Wallace to both be title characters and never get any screen time WTF.


esse - Mar 03, 2007 1:31:15 am PST #5205 of 5730
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Veronica got the key to Grieco's house from the Sheriff's evidence room, right?

Yes. The scene where TA Tim says, "If only we had the keys!" and Veronica laughs because she RULES EVERYTHING and sneaks the evidence locker keys out of the drawer to get Grieco's keys.


Theodosia - Mar 03, 2007 2:13:01 am PST #5206 of 5730
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Assuming that V and Tim were working on those CDs for a good long time, Tim would only have to wait for Veronica to go out for a drink or a bathroom break to quickly substitute the smoking guncomputer disc. In fact, he could have prestidigitated it anywhere into the apartment and claimed to have 'found' it between the sofa cushions or whatever.

FWIW, I thought the apartment looked a lot too neat and interesting to be the crib of a skanky drug addict. (Not that I haven't known addicts with taste and OCD, but that's not the way to bet.)


DXMachina - Mar 03, 2007 4:37:49 am PST #5207 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

In fact, he could have prestidigitated it anywhere into the apartment and claimed to have 'found' it between the sofa cushions or whatever.

Except he didn't. He only went over to the shelves by the TV when Veronica suggested he look for A Bug's Life. It was then that Tim picked up Taps, with the CD already inside. There was no prestidigitation. That it was already in Taps would suggest the person who put it there had a sense of humor, which Tim clearly did not.


Theodosia - Mar 03, 2007 4:38:55 am PST #5208 of 5730
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

So Skanky!Ex really did have the cd of the telephone conversations? Huh.


bon bon - Mar 03, 2007 6:07:52 am PST #5209 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I still think Lucky Tim did the phone taps, and that it's not that hard to break into a dead man's house to plant a DVD. There's no reason for Grieco to bug Veronica's phone. She also was separated from her own phone while in jail.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 03, 2007 6:27:59 am PST #5210 of 5730
What is even happening?

Tim definitely tapped Veronica's phone and I'm pretty sure-to-certain he tapped Landry's, too, because that's how he would have gotten confirmation that Landry thought he was just a big tool.

Planting the disc just happened off screen, either during the time he and V were both there, or as bon bon notes, sometime earlier.


DXMachina - Mar 03, 2007 6:37:34 am PST #5211 of 5730
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Planting the disc just happened off screen, either during the time he and V were both there, or as bon bon notes, sometime earlier.

But to be fair to the viewer, you have to show the scene at some point. All it would've taken was a quick scene where Landry had Tim confiscate the class's cells before a test, or somesuch. I have no problem with him having access to Landry's phone, because he was Landry's gofer.

it's not that hard to break into a dead man's house to plant a DVD.

But if you're going to go to all that trouble anyway, why not upload the stuff to Grieco's computer so it's easier to find?

It's like Tim was being framed... by the writers.