I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Cheese Man ,'Chosen'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - Feb 15, 2007 7:39:49 am PST #5022 of 5730
What is even happening?

Okay. Pretend that at 10:00 o'clock tonight, Rob Thomas showed up at your house and said, "Hey, I need your advice. Tell me what to keep about the show. Tell me what to ditch. Tell me what I'm doing right and wrong. I'll do whatever you say."

What would you tell him?


Amy - Feb 15, 2007 7:43:25 am PST #5023 of 5730
Because books.

Wow. I'd have to think on that for a while.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 15, 2007 7:49:50 am PST #5024 of 5730
What is even happening?

You can't, Amy. It's the dead of winter, and the man has a show to run.


ChiKat - Feb 15, 2007 7:54:45 am PST #5025 of 5730
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Keep Veronica broken. I'm a Joss/Tim-devotee, I like the pain. I also like the mystery of the week combined with an arching, bigger mystery to solve. The more personal it is to Veronica, the better. More Weevil. More Wallace. More Mac.


sumi - Feb 15, 2007 8:05:53 am PST #5026 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

What ChiKat said.

And uh, give Logan his snark back, please.


ChiKat - Feb 15, 2007 8:07:08 am PST #5027 of 5730
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

And uh, give Logan his snark back, please.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

How bad is it that I really liked Dick in this week's ep?


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2007 8:07:58 am PST #5028 of 5730
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you feel for Veronica? I'm a watcher, not a fan, and I find her offputting. I don't care about her pain, to the degree where I stop being sure I'm meant to, or that Rob cares if I do. I mean, not sure that he's willing to do any work to make sure I care--he does, and that's what's key.


sumi - Feb 15, 2007 8:08:07 am PST #5029 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Not bad at all -- Dick was definitely a highlight. (Plus, his idiocy gave us the Logan - Little Girl God scenes.)


ChiKat - Feb 15, 2007 8:11:41 am PST #5030 of 5730
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Do you feel for Veronica?

I did in the first season. Second season? Not as much. The first half of this season, not at all. I found her v. abrasive and off-putting. I know others have said the same thing, so I don't think I have much new to add to that.

But, second half of this season, she seems more like the vulnerable girl I got to like in S1. Yes, she has been through absolute crap and that is bound to make a person guarded and possibly cynical. But, I can't relate to someone who is as cynical as she was. I need her more vulnerable and open to hurt and pain.


Amy - Feb 15, 2007 8:13:13 am PST #5031 of 5730
Because books.

I want Veronica to have to deal with something that really matters to her, like Lilly's death or her mom's disappearance.

I want snarky Logan back, too, and if it's no trouble, I'd like to see him wiht an actual purpose on the show other than emoting and giving Veronica something to behave really childishly about.

I'd keep Keith, natch, and Wallace and Mac and Weevil, and pull back on the secondary and tertiary and ... fourth-tiary ... characters who are kind of amusing but a big distraction.

I'd kill someone like ... Dick, I think. Or no, someone we would actually care about seeing dead. Wait, that's too Jossian.