Police procedure has changed since I was little.

Wash ,'The Message'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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victor infante - Feb 12, 2007 12:52:22 pm PST #4983 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't think they rewrote any history. Veronica just displaced the blame.

Which I fully understand. Lots of people were to blame for what happened to Veronica there, but Madison's actions were the ones aimed maliciously at her. It makes her easy to channel that rage at.


tiggy - Feb 12, 2007 12:58:04 pm PST #4984 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

you see misdirected anger, i see history rewrite. i can totally get behind Veronica's vehement dislike of Madison without her attempting to blame her rape on her. there's plenty of other things to hate her about without convoluting their history.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2007 3:37:26 pm PST #4985 of 5730
What is even happening?

What Veeronica said didn't rewrite the history, though.

I don't know. I'm feeling really fatalistic about the show. I can't imagine its not dead in the water. I wanted it to go out differently and much later on, but I really think this is it so maybe I'm hand-waving so I can enjoy the end of the ride.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2007 3:41:08 pm PST #4986 of 5730
What is even happening?

Plz xcuse the clumsy typing. I'm using scott's blackberry as I seem to be allergic to my new chair at my pc desk. I'm not kidding. Something in thatv room is making me wheeze. We wiped the chair down with windex wipes and put it outside for a while, eƀrlier today.

Frak. How did I do that weird thing with the "A"?


Amy - Feb 12, 2007 3:41:18 pm PST #4987 of 5730
Because books.

I really think this is it so maybe I'm hand-waving so I can enjoy the end of the ride.

My problem is, the early, fierce-hot love leads me to very high expectations. And it seems too early for VM to be disappointing. At the same time, it makes sense -- the Lilly and Veronica's mom plots couldn't be dragged on forever.

I criticize, but I still look forward to it, and it's still better than 98% of what's on TV. I just wish they hadn't felt forced to make some of the changes in format they did.


tiggy - Feb 12, 2007 3:59:16 pm PST #4988 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

isn't it rewriting? if you were a new viewer to the show and hadn't seen A Trip to the Dentist, you'd take Veronica's word for it. you wouldn't question the fact that Madison was a cold-hearted bitch who had drugged Veronica.

we're supposed to believe what Veronica believes and when she says Madison was the one who drugged her, i take issue with that since i do know the history.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2007 4:02:44 pm PST #4989 of 5730
What is even happening?

Madison did drug her, because Madison handed her the drink. Now granted, Madison didn't mean to drug her, but I can see Veronica framing it that way when she's hurt and trying to make Logan bleed.


tiggy - Feb 12, 2007 4:05:31 pm PST #4990 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Madison is a cold-hearted bitch for spitting in a drink and handing it to Veronica and for writing SLUT on her car window and countless other things, but she did NOT willfully drug Veronica and having Veronica say she did just rubs me the wrong way.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2007 4:46:22 pm PST #4991 of 5730
What is even happening?

Okay, I don't disagree with anything you said in your most recent post. I just don't think either the writers or Veronica have forgotten that Madison had no idea she was handing Veronica a drink with ghb in it. I think Veronica was intentionally distorting the truth because of the whole sexual jealousy problem. I don't think I'm supposed to like her doing that. I think I'm being shown just how firm a hold the green eyed monster has on her.

It bugged me much more that Logan apparently knew about Madison's (inadvertant) part in V being drugged.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 12, 2007 4:46:28 pm PST #4992 of 5730
What is even happening?

Ugh