Cuba.
Right. I stand corrected (and slightly embarassed/shamed at having forgotten so quickly).
the whole "the parents are bad, mmkay?" thing.
This is just wandering through my brain...Could it be more of a "Rich parents are bad" thing? Veronica's Dad, Wallace's Mom, we've seen the money struggles, but these are our "good kids." Or look at Mac, raised with the "wrong" middle class family, she's great and we love her. The girl raised rich by her "real" parents? Total bitca. ie rich parents=bad parents? (Oh oh and Weevil! A Criminal, but with a "Heart of Gold." Rich parents are bad!)
Hey, Veronica Mars thread!
Well, to be fair, Madison's "parents" (the rich ones) are decent--what little we've seen of Mac's biological mother anyway, as are Mac's adopted parents, for all their shortcomings. What bothers me more about that storyline is that it argues that Nature triumphs over Nurture, and does so in a decidedly unambiguous fashion. The Veronica & Keith dynamic is a little more complex, as while Veronica is Keith's daughter, she's also Lianne's. The Echolls family horror show is a mixed-bag: while Aaron is a classic example of the abused-becoming-an-abuser, I don't think we're being led to believe that it's an inescapable fate for Logan--I mean, there are warning bells, as evidence by Logan's proclivity for violence and impulse control, but I don't think the show is as bleak and nihilistic as to suggest that Logan's beyond saving.
What bothers me more about that storyline is that it argues that Nature triumphs over Nurture, and does so in a decidedly unambiguous fashion.
I don't see this. Please explain?
I don't see this. Please explain?
Mac, despite being brought up by nachos-and-NASCAR parents, turned out like her biological falafels-and-Fellini parents.
But were her adoptive parents discouraging of her academic pursuits? I remember them as decent folk.
From an interview I read somewhere - KB had no idea who was at the door at the time that they filmed that scene.
But were her adoptive parents discouraging of her academic pursuits? I remember them as decent folk.
No, they were definitely decent folk.
So you're saying it wasn't unambiguous, but that the adoptive parents nurtured nature.
I like that idea much better. Thanks, Jon. Like Vonnie, I'd always kind of viewed that episode as presenting a rather unambiguous look, in contrast to Veronica's season-long plight of what it would to mean to her if Keith wasn't her real father.
