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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Vonnie K - Nov 29, 2006 6:36:42 am PST #4513 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

But... he was in... Mexico... with Logan?

Heh. Yeah, I think it's more likely that the rape that occurred while Mercer was in Mexico was faked. That second theory really doesn't hold water when I look at it again.

I actually don't remember anything about Nancy -- but other people elsewhere (in LJ) mentioned that she was the girl who claimed rape while Mercer was in Mexico. Was she tight with Nish and co.? I can't recall if we've ever seen her.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 29, 2006 6:46:20 am PST #4514 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I heard a definite glitch (a tape slowdown, I think) on Mercer's show which is what set Veronica's "a-ha" off.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 29, 2006 6:48:05 am PST #4515 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I actually don't remember anything about Nancy -- but other people elsewhere (in LJ) mentioned that she was the girl who claimed rape while Mercer was in Mexico. Was she tight with Nish and co.? I can't recall if we've ever seen her.

Was she the one who was mentioned as having been raped during the radio show debate with the lampoon guys, or was that Claire?

Also, was Mercer in Mexico or doing his show when Parker got raped?


Nora Deirdre - Nov 29, 2006 6:50:34 am PST #4516 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I heard a definite glitch (a tape slowdown, I think) on Mercer's show which is what set Veronica's "a-ha" off.

Yeah, that's what I thought I heard too.

so, was Mercer in Mexico or doing his show when Parker got raped?

Doing the show... I think that's the first date VM investigated when looking at the logs.


Vonnie K - Nov 29, 2006 6:53:32 am PST #4517 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

so, was Mercer in Mexico or doing his show when Parker got raped?

Doing the show... I think that's the first date VM investigated when looking at the logs.

Oooh. OK, now it makes sense in my head. So Mercer had a double-alibi -- in Mexico with Logan when Nancy faked her rape, and allegedly doing the show when Parker got raped.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 29, 2006 7:12:32 am PST #4518 of 5730
What is even happening?

I thought Veronica realized that Mercer's show was on and taking callers literally moments after speaking to him, and thus his radio show wasn't necessarily an alibi-- but I am a little confused still.

As soon as Mercer walked off to do his show, I knew he was the rapist (before the tape audio glitch tipped off Veronica). I'd always wondered why Veronica was so quick to listen to Piz when he so quickly dismissed the idea that Mercer would have taped a call-in request show, so I've been suspicious, but his alibis were always sort of botched, and that distracted me from judging whether or not they were legit.

What didn't work was more to do with the August 13th/Tijuana alibi. I mean, clearly, the rape reported on that date was one of the faked ones. That resonates well with the charge Veronica levied at Nish, Claire and Fern, last week, but it was still messy, for me.

Why August, first of all? We had no indication that any of our returning characters would have been on campus much before the show premiered, since Piz was moving his stuff in, in episode 3.1, and Veronica was calling it her first day. Yet here we have Logan, a commuting freshman, who just happens to know a returning student -- Mercer -- and knows him well enough to be in Tijuana with him, before he (Logan) even started attending Hearst? Okay, there can be explanations for that. It's not like it's impossible, it's just cheap, imo.

Then, we don't even find out who faked the rape on August 13. Did we? I mean, we're assuming it's Nancy, but did we ever get a name of which woman reported a rape on August 13th? I mean, that's a pretty big ass deal, not only faking a rape, but faking the rape that ended up giving the actual rapist an alibi Veronica Mars would accept, in an episode where her trust was at an all-time low.

I just sort of feel like they decided to give Mercer a fake alibi, without doing the work of constructing one we could scrutinize. It was like ::hand wave hand wave August off screen rape and fake, to boot::

On top of that, having the 11:00pm show/11:45 rape confusion, which I still think must have been a continuity error (otherwise either Veronica, or certainly Lamb should have noticed the time, and not believed the radio gig as an alibi) just left a bland taste in my mouth, even though it was a pretty exciting episode, and arc.

eta...

t ranty pants Who makes a continuity error on the damned timing of the actual culprit's second fake alibi?


Nora Deirdre - Nov 29, 2006 7:16:04 am PST #4519 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Why August, first of all? We had no indication that any of our returning characters would have been on campus much before the show premiered, since Piz was moving his stuff in, in episode 3.1, and Veronica was calling it her first day. Yet here we have Logan, a commuting freshman, who just happens to know a returning student -- Mercer -- and knows him well enough to be in Tijuana with him, before he (Logan) even started attending Hearst?

This bothered me too, but I was unsure at my memory of it being in August.


bon bon - Nov 29, 2006 7:21:00 am PST #4520 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's a small thing, but I can actually believe that about Logan and Mercer because the world of rich kids tends to be a small one.

Anyhoo, I'm reading back through older posts, and I'm glad the SPE had consequences (which someone else on TWoP predicted) even though I was oddly certain that it was too obvious to have been Moe at the time.


Polter-Cow - Nov 29, 2006 7:26:23 am PST #4521 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Then, we don't even find out who faked the rape on August 13. Did we? I mean, we're assuming it's Nancy, but did we ever get a name of which woman reported a rape on August 13th?

Er, yes. It was Nancy, the woman in the premiere yelling at the TBTN rally. There were five rapes/"rapes": Dawn, Stacy, Nancy, Parker, Claire. You can tell this because when they protest in front of the Pi Sigs, they number the victims on their posters. Veronica checked the dates for Stacy, Nancy, and Parker. Nancy was August 13, the Mexico alibi, and thus had to be faked.

I just sort of feel like they decided to give Mercer a fake alibi, without doing the work of constructing one we could scrutinize.

I disagree, as his alibi has been scrutinized multiple times and held up, despite suspicions. I love the layers of his fake alibi. I love that he was both arrested and cleared. I love that I said, "So we know Mercer's not the rapist, right?" when all the fingers were pointing to him so early.


Amy - Nov 29, 2006 7:32:44 am PST #4522 of 5730
Because books.

Is GHB illegal? Ownership of it, I mean? Mercer had all that GHB when Lamb held him, but whatever happened with that? Does GHB have any legitimate uses? Shouldn't there have been charges against him for that reason alone?