I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.

Xander ,'Showtime'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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sumi - Nov 14, 2006 6:10:46 pm PST #4252 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

But if Logan was with Piz -- in Piz's room -- how was he on the radio? (Or am I misremembering?)


Amy - Nov 14, 2006 6:18:33 pm PST #4253 of 5730
Because books.

But if Logan was with Piz -- in Piz's room -- how was he on the radio? (Or am I misremembering?)

Hey, that's right.

Maybe the comment Veronica made earlier about Mercer possibly taping his show is the clue. Unless Piz ran to the studio right after Logan left -- or did we see Veronica in the cafeteria with Piz on the speakers before that?


Vonnie K - Nov 14, 2006 6:27:59 pm PST #4254 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I don't like this repeated hammering of "Veronica is a judgmental, untrusting shrew who will drive the people who love her away!" anvils and the after-school special-esque lessons via cases wherein Veronica learns to trust and be forgiving. I mean, the people who she loved *did* let her down and her massive trust issues are valid characterization points, so the complexities are there, yet I feel like the writing is going about this arc in a particularly graceless way. Bah.


Lee - Nov 14, 2006 7:57:01 pm PST #4255 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

well, this episode annoyed the fuck out of me.


sumi - Nov 14, 2006 8:21:24 pm PST #4256 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

When we got to the point where Veronica is walking out to her car, I was afraid we'd get a cliffhanger. I am so glad there wasn't a cliffhanger.


victor infante - Nov 14, 2006 8:27:06 pm PST #4257 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

But if Logan was with Piz -- in Piz's room -- how was he on the radio? (Or am I misremembering?)

Just rewatched. It's not Piz on the radio.


Polter-Cow - Nov 14, 2006 8:36:38 pm PST #4258 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Just rewatched. It's not Piz on the radio.

Yeah, I was confused about the whole Piz thing in this thread. He sounded like Piz but identified himself as "DJ Hellfish," when Piz A) isn't a DJ, he has a talk show and B) calls himself "The Piz."

I don't like this repeated hammering of "Veronica is a judgmental, untrusting shrew who will drive the people who love her away!" anvils and the after-school special-esque lessons via cases wherein Veronica learns to trust and be forgiving. I mean, the people who she loved *did* let her down and her massive trust issues are valid characterization points, so the complexities are there, yet I feel like the writing is going about this arc in a particularly graceless way. Bah.

Well, I think it's at least good because people have been bitching about Veronica all season, and these later episodes have made it clear that the writers have actually been aware of how she's been acting.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 15, 2006 12:53:58 am PST #4259 of 5730
What is even happening?

Yada yada rape head shave oh Piz gee whiz. People, you're missing the most important part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glen = Ben = Glory


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2006 12:59:19 am PST #4260 of 5730
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the GF was using Ockham's razor better than Veronica. Not about the space lasers--but about something being wrong with him. You gotta take an extra "all men are dogs" step to get where Veronica went.


tiggy - Nov 15, 2006 2:19:26 am PST #4261 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Glen = Ben = Glory

I knew that chin dimple looked familiar!! also? hella amused that Glen is a mixture of Glory and Ben letter wise.

i'm sick of seeing unnecessarily bitchy Veronica. i'm sick of seeing lapdog Logan. i'm sick of our regular characters not being utilized. however, the last ten minutes made me more excited for this show than i've been in a long time.