I don't know how wee he is anymore.
Well, short anyway.
River: You're not right, Early. You're not righteous. You've got issues. Early: No. Oh, yes, I could have that. You might have me figured out, then. Good job. I'm not 100%.
'Objects In Space'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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lisah - Oct 19, 2006 8:43:20 am PDT #3998 of 5730
Punishingly Intricate
§ ita § - Oct 19, 2006 9:03:31 am PDT #3999 of 5730
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That message sounds flip and thoughtless--the sort of thing you could get away with if there hadn't been previous displeasure expressed, maybe.
I'm surprised that so many are reading it as such a pointed attempt to provoke some sort of reaction or another from Veronica. I'm loathe to use a "he's just 18" or "he's just a guy" justification, but what remains is still valid "he's just human."
Which is not an excuse by any means--it is merely a different reason from many posited here.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 19, 2006 9:05:02 am PDT #4000 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Oh what the hell - SLUMBERNUT!!!
§ ita § - Oct 19, 2006 9:22:46 am PDT #4001 of 5730
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh! I sent that screencap to the krav instructor who'd said that JD couldn't be a hunk because he had too little definition, and she liked the picture. Still wants more arm def, though.
I'd call her spoiled, but for completeness I'd have to lump in 95% of the krav instructors too. Ah, including me.
Steph L. - Oct 19, 2006 9:32:26 am PDT #4002 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I'm surprised that so many are reading it as such a pointed attempt to provoke some sort of reaction or another from Veronica. I'm loathe to use a "he's just 18" or "he's just a guy" justification, but what remains is still valid "he's just human."
Which is not an excuse by any means--it is merely a different reason from many posited here.
I agree with ita. Compare a thoughtless voicemail blow-off with his calculated plan to hook up with blonde!daughter of not!bridge-reporting guy. Despite the fact that eventually Logan fell for blonde!daughter for real, that wasn't his original intent, and boy howdy, his cold calculated intent was very obvious.
The voicemail/blowing-off? NSM. Totally different vibe. I don't see anything there that indicates forethought and intent to provoke a specific reaction.
Sheryl - Oct 19, 2006 2:33:25 pm PDT #4003 of 5730
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
I'm in the they-both-acted-badly camp.And now I'm annoyed that this has become the main area of discussion for this ep. (I'm afraid to see what the conversation is like elseforum, where the Logan lovers and 'shippers are much more vocal)
Topic!Cindy - Oct 19, 2006 2:36:49 pm PDT #4004 of 5730
What is even happening?
I'm in the they-both-acted-badly camp.And now I'm annoyed that this has become the main area of discussion for this ep. (I'm afraid to see what the conversation is like elseforum, where the Logan lovers and 'shippers are much more vocal)
I don't think this is so much a shipper thing, here. Amy and Teppy didn't see what was so horrible about Logan's actions. I thought they both were bad, but that V crossed more lines (which is a nice plot twist, because you expect Logan to screw up) and victor, Gris, etc., thought Logan was worse (I think). ita and sj seemed to fall somewhere in the middle.
That said, if you're annoyed that this has become the main discussion area for this episode, rather than chastising, why not throw something else on the table?
Cashmere - Oct 19, 2006 2:41:05 pm PDT #4005 of 5730
Now tagless for your comfort.
I know Weevil showed aptitude in his first stake out but WHY OH WHY did Keith put him on a child abuse case his very next night out??? Did Keith have plans and couldn't make the stake out? I can't remember the conversation they had in his office--I know he told Weevil to get some sleep but I don't recall him giving him a reason why Keith couldn't do it himself.
Or did the writers not even throw us that bone and had us simply believe that Keith would toss him in over his head like that? Or did they just need to get Weevil out of the tie and onto Hearst campus really quick?
Topic!Cindy - Oct 19, 2006 2:45:44 pm PDT #4006 of 5730
What is even happening?
I know Weevil showed aptitude in his first stake out but WHY OH WHY did Keith put him on a child abuse case his very next night out??? Did Keith have plans and couldn't make the stake out? I can't remember the conversation they had in his office--I know he told Weevil to get some sleep but I don't recall him giving him a reason why Keith couldn't do it himself.
I think he was picking something he thought Weevil could do, given his success with the first case.
Or did the writers not even throw us that bone and had us simply believe that Keith would toss him in over his head like that? Or did they just need to get Weevil out of the tie and onto Hearst campus really quick?It does make you want to see more of Weevil and Keith fighting crime, doesn't it? I suspect Keith didn't think he was throwing Weevil in over his head, but I knew when I heard what the case was, exactly what Weevil would do. I did find Weevil's reaction totally believable though, and yeah, I think the writers want to get Weevil on campus with the other kids. I am glad for that. I love his interaction with both of them.
Sometimes, I daydream about him Mac hitting it off. I could never understand why he didn't ever have a girl friend (or various girls here and there) during the first two seasons.
sj - Oct 19, 2006 2:56:21 pm PDT #4007 of 5730
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
sj seemed to fall somewhere in the middle.
Nope. I think Logan was definitely wrong, but I can totally see why Veronica did what she did. The only thing I don't understand about Veronica's actions is why she is dating an asshat in the first place.