I think that every school has students who want to believe it. At my college, the "rule" was 5 minutes for TAs, 10 minutes for adjunct professors (i.e., non-PhDs, non-EdDs, etc.), and 15 minutes for full professors.
Last year, in one of my smaller classes (about a dozen students), the prof didn't show so we decided to just work on the homework together. Halfway through the period, the professor finally appeared. He had been sitting in his office, but had forgotten about the class. He complained that we should've came and got him.
::stands in victor and ChiKat's corner::
Halfway through the period, the professor finally appeared. He had been sitting in his office, but had forgotten about the class. He complained that we should've came and got him.
I can be pretty flaky, but this really takes the absent-minded professor thing to a whole new level.
The correct message? "I don't think I'm going to make it, I'm at this party, and I'm having a really a good time. You should call me when you get off, maybe you could join me or we could hang out elsewhere."
I'm so with Gris on this one. OTOH, I've been having a lot of issues lately wtih people who just don't understand the correct messages to give--either when to just fess up and tell the truth ("Oh, I fucked up, sorry, my bad" instead of a lie...) or when to gloss over the truth and just nod and smile ("of course he might be into you!")...
What was the exact line that Logan used?
"Hey, it's me. Oh, I don't think I'll be able to make it tonight..."
Girls in the background: "Come on, do it. Come on! Come on!"
"...because it looks like I'm getting lucky. Hey, I'll see you tomorrow, babe."
I can be pretty flaky, but this really takes the absent-minded professor thing to a whole new level.
He really wasn't absent-minded. I guess he just caught caught up in whatever he was doing.
Veronica's 18 and not watching the show. She's living it. Whether she objectively thought it had any validity as possible cheating on her (and, honestly, I don't think she activated the chip with that in mind - what she expected to find is probably pretty much what she found), it's still very much NOT the kind of foolishness you what you want to hear when you've been looking forward to seeing your boyfriend all day and he fails to show.
Veronica's 19 (although Logan is probably still 18), and I'm 39 and will have been married 12 years by the end of this month, but I don't know what that has to do with it, anyhow.
Veronica's quick on her feet, and notices things. That's what she does. It's valid to expect her to pick up on something that's pretty obvious: if you suspect a lover of cheating and hiding his infidelities, if he is cheating, he probably won't leave you a phone message from a loud party, and make a crack about getting lucky at the end of his message. I'm not saying I don't understand how/why she missed that. I do. She missed it because of her trust issues. Even she knows that. I mentioned it because it's clear how far the green eyed monster's fangs are stuck in her neck.
Gris, I'm just going to restate the discussion up to this point, because I'm not sure what the issue is.
I think both Veronica and Logan were in the wrong in this episode, but I think activating the GPS on a lover's cell phone without telling him, and using it to track him down; trying to control his free time; planting a tracking device in his car, showing up when he's in someone else's dorm room playing cards, and publically demanding that he leave with you (she lacked all discretion) is worse on the scale of Lover-Behavior, than skipping classes; playing poker; doing the evasive fade-away thing; but calling when you can't show up (albeit leaving a message possibly intended to push buttons connected to feelings she's already made clear are in overdrive). Again, I think they both sucked, I just think she sucked more.
Is it fair to say that you think the opposite? I'm glad to agree to disagree, but I just want to know what we're agreeing to disagree about.
It's valid to expect her to pick up on something that's pretty obvious: if you suspect a lover of cheating and hiding his infidelities, if he is cheating, he probably won't leave you a phone message from a loud party, and make a crack about getting lucky at the end of his message.
Right, and -- it ocurred to me last night that I've made that kind of joke to BFs before, and they've made them to me. ("Where are you going tomorrow night?" "To meet my other girlfriend.")
The rudeness on Logan's part is in his avoidy-ness of Veronica, and blowing off plans via voice-mail. Absolutely. But the content of the voice-mail itself really didn't justify activating the Lo(gan)Jack.
The voicemail was disrespectful when it's clear she's already unhappy. I'd go apeshit.
