Stop that right now! I can hear the smacking!

Giles ,'Never Leave Me'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Amy - Oct 13, 2006 12:45:38 pm PDT #3877 of 5730
Because books.

I'm getting this really awful feeling that, whether there is a separate rapist or not, the Take Back the Night ladies are faking some of what's going on in order to inflame tension and help their crusade against the Greek system.

What Cindy said.

Except ... the girls are raped. I don't see the Take Back the Night girls participating in that, and other than colluding in some way to shave the girls's heads, I don't see what they could be faking.

Unless the girls turn out *not* to have been raped at all, but only had their heads shaved to make it appear they'd been raped. That I could see. Fucked up as it would be.

Do we have proof that the girls from last season were, in fact, raped? Rape kits, medical exams, etc.? Anything I'm not remembering?


Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2006 12:59:06 pm PDT #3878 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't see the Take Back the Night girls participating in that, and other than colluding in some way to shave the girls's heads, I don't see what they could be faking.

Well, I think it's very possible that some of these more public victims (like the rally girl) may not have actually been raped.

Unless the girls turn out *not* to have been raped at all, but only had their heads shaved to make it appear they'd been raped. That I could see. Fucked up as it would be.

Right.

I'm not sure whether they're involved in anything that's actually happened to people like Dawn, Stacy, and Parker, who all seem like fairly decent people unconnected to Take Back the Night. Like I said, I don't know whether TBTN is directly involved with the actual rapes or they're just using them to their advantage.


Hayden - Oct 13, 2006 1:22:48 pm PDT #3879 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

To me, it would be hopelessly politicized. If it were a sympathizer to the cause, it might be different, but to have the TBTN group involved would be like introducing a character who was a real, life welfare queen. It plays into an agenda that's closer to the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh/Ann Coulter style of blaming the victim than the noirish perspective that assumes evil lurking in the hearts of all.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 13, 2006 1:33:45 pm PDT #3880 of 5730
What is even happening?

I think the victim(s?) last year were legit. I think Parker was truly raped. I think the rapist shaved their heads.

I have no reason to believe the TBTN women are all going to end up on the up and up, because no one in Neptune ever does. I don't know how, but I expect some of them will have something that sucked, somewhere along the line, and probably in service of what they saw as the greater good (and that greater good probably involves taking down the Greeks).

Remember the story last year, where the NHS teacher Veronica was defending actually did seduce a student? Remember even that wasn't pure victimhood, because the girl's friend actually faked up charges against the teacher (who really was guilty) in order to bring him down? I wouldn't be surprised by a scenario along those lines.


Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2006 1:34:56 pm PDT #3881 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It plays into an agenda that's closer to the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh/Ann Coulter

Not that I know anything about Rob's political views, but the show's never struck me as ultraconservative in that way.

blaming the victim than the noirish perspective that assumes evil lurking in the hearts of all.

I do understand how it could be seen that way, though, which is why I hope it doesn't turn out that all the rapes are fake. If TBTN has actually been orchestrating actual rapes to further their agenda, however...that's just sick.


Amy - Oct 13, 2006 1:39:01 pm PDT #3882 of 5730
Because books.

I have no reason to believe the TBTN women are all going to end up on the up and up, because no one in Neptune ever does. I don't know how, but I expect some of them will have something that sucked, somewhere along the line, and probably in service of what they saw as the greater good (and that greater good probably involves taking down the Greeks).

This. I think I'ma let Cindy analyze the show for me.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 13, 2006 1:42:23 pm PDT #3883 of 5730
What is even happening?

If TBTN has actually been orchestrating actual rapes to further their agenda, however...that's just sick.
I can't imagine it being anything this blatant. I don't know what it will be, but they've come off too self-righteous to be completely righteous.

Plus, Take Back the Night Rallies in the day are DUM.


Theodosia - Oct 13, 2006 1:49:00 pm PDT #3884 of 5730
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Might I point out that I invoked Tawana Brawley last week? t /preens


P.M. Marc - Oct 13, 2006 2:05:19 pm PDT #3885 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

To me, it would be hopelessly politicized. If it were a sympathizer to the cause, it might be different, but to have the TBTN group involved would be like introducing a character who was a real, life welfare queen. It plays into an agenda that's closer to the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh/Ann Coulter style of blaming the victim than the noirish perspective that assumes evil lurking in the hearts of all.

A-yup. This.


Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2006 2:14:47 pm PDT #3886 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

This article/blog post is...rather unique:

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