Huh. I got enough explanation in last night's episode to get the Keith storyline.

Right there with you.

Huh. I got enough explanation in last night's episode to get the Keith storyline.

My big problem wasn't the picture itself, but how, even with the paperwork, Keith would be given a picture that should have been police evidence (due to the blood on it) so quickly.

Also, given that we still haven't seen the body, I still have doubts about whether Kendall is really dead. That may just be residual CC affection talking. Relatedly, I know they showed Liam about to pull the trigger, but did they actually show him pulling the trigger, or did they just cut to Keith hearing the shots, becuase if it was the latter, it might have been Liam getting shot by Kendall.

Basically I just get suspicious when they don't show the deed or the body (Kendall much more so than Cormac, though).

Also, I can't none of the Logan fans here has gone on about Streaking!Logan. It's like I don't know you people any more.

when I try to imagine seeing it through the eyes of a new viewer, I decide it hasn't done anything to pull me in.

Yes, this. In some ways, I feel like a new viewer -- I didn't rewatch S2 over the summer, and I have the memory of a gnat, so a lot of the Kendall stuff is completely gone for me. That storyline seems like it would be really unfathomable to a new viewer.

And if I had walked in with the S3 premiere ... I don't know. Last week we got that Logan and Veronica are involved and have great sex. This week we got pretty much nothing, between them. And there was no explanation of Dick showing up at Logan's last night, was there?

Don't get me wrong -- I loved the Wallace/Logan stuff, and I always love Veronica playing a role, but some of the details last night seemed iffy to me. For one, the den mom growing pot to deal with chemo? Kind of trite. And would she really grow *that* much for her own personal use? She'd have to be stoned all the time. (I mean, I've never grown it, so I don't know for sure, but that looked like a *lot* of weed to me for one person.)

I hate feeling nitpicky. But I was so in love with S1 and S2, and I'm a little underwhelmed. The rape story is interesting, but it's not personal to Veronica, you know? (Except in an echoey emotional way.)

I really wish that they'd put Logan on the other side of the experiment. Given his history with Aaron, he's already got the coping strategies for the experiment. I'd much rather see him put (albeit briefly) on the side of the dynamic with power. Because the question of "would Logan do that" is actually an interesting one, whereas nsm for Wallace. Wallace's solution, in principle, if not in specifics, was pretty predictable for me.

Keith would be given a picture that should have been police evidence (due to the blood on it)

The blood was on the frame/glass. The cop was removing the frame itself to bag and left the painting.

(due to the blood on it)

the police removed the picture from some kind of plastic frame. the blood was on the plastic part. there would be no reason for them to confiscate the picture.

i'm kind of feeling like i did with Buffy at the end in that the fandom is sucking my enjoyment out of the show.

The fandom, it gives and it takes.

i'm kind of feeling like i did with Buffy at the end in that the fandom is sucking my enjoyment out of the show.

I'm sorry if my comments on the show are causing this. I will likely not be commenting further on VM episodes, I certainly don't want to bring people down with my personal problems with watching the show.

Huh. I got enough explanation in last night's episode to get the Keith storyline.

Me, too.

I really wish that they'd put Logan on the other side of the experiment. Given his history with Aaron, he's already got the coping strategies for the experiment.

I said exactly the opposite to Scott, last night. I think it was interesting to watch him, as the abused child, knowing how to ride out that situation. I expected him to flip and was pleasantly surprised by this little bit of growth.

And if I had walked in with the S3 premiere ... I don't know. Last week we got that Logan and Veronica are involved and have great sex. This week we got pretty much nothing, between them. And there was no explanation of Dick showing up at Logan's last night, was there?

Word about the Dick stuff. Last week, he's an interesting, sympathetic mess. This week, he's just a near-foil for Veronica's cover, and that's it.

As for V/L, I prefer when a female protagonist's story isn't all romance related, all the time. But, I think (as I did last season) that Rob has no idea what he has in this pairing, and squanders it, and the oodles of chemistry both Bell and Dohring have with anyone, when they decide to turn it on. RT seems completely devoted to the anti-climax when writing their bits of the story. He skipped over all the interesting stuff, and showed us what I thought was one of the colder post-good-sex scenes I've ever seen (last week).

The compelling part of V/L is/would be how chlamydia-infected-rape-survivor-twu-Duncan-love ended up in bed with obligatory-psychotic-jackass-abused-woobie- sometime -hero juvie-delinquent-married-woman-boy-toy.

I don't expect them to stay together. I don't even want them to stay together, at least not happily, but the together bits Rob chooses to show are blander than rice cakes. They could be a hook, but they're wasted.

I'm sorry if my comments on the show are causing this. I will likely not be commenting further on VM episodes, I certainly don't want to bring people down with my personal problems with watching the show.

I can't speak for tiggy, but I doubt she directed that at you, Nora. LJ and TWoP fandom gets craxy, and tiggy moderates one of the LJ VM communities.