As Willow goes, so goes my nation.

Oz ,'Selfless'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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joe boucher - Oct 04, 2006 1:33:14 pm PDT #3715 of 5730
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Not getting an explanation for the Sally reference didn't bother me in and of itself, but since I found the "broken Beaver" storyline unconvincing I regret not getting more backstory. Not that I think any Sally explanation would have made multiple murders (bus & plane) separated by seven months more convincing, but still.

Last night's episode was okay. I'm always happy to see Vinnie, but I hope CC gets a better send off than being shot off screen. (I love CC so I hope that was a mislead & she isn't getting a send off.) I also thought some of the dialogue was too selfconsciously hip, especially the thing about Beaver "Greg Louganis-ing" off the roof (or pulling a Greg Louganis, whatever he said.) Logan can be a jerk, as can Dick, but would he really say that about the suicide of the brother of one of his best friends? And would he be that flip about it to his girlfriend whom the roof diver tried to kill -- and whose father she thought he had killed -- right before his triple gainer? But I'm glad to have the show back & look forward to next week.

I also wonder if the Donald Fagen reference means that RT is a Steely Dan fan or hater. I assumed the former, but then remembered that DF was a thief in the episode.


Polter-Cow - Oct 04, 2006 2:07:23 pm PDT #3716 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Heh. I'll bet it's the former. The Fagan name works doubly as an Oliver Twist reference, so.


DebetEsse - Oct 04, 2006 4:37:27 pm PDT #3717 of 5730
Woe to the fucking wicked.

joe, Logan was also on the roof, and, really, was the one who wasn't able to stop him. With all the trauma in his life, yeah, I buy it from Logan, as a coping mechanism, if nothing else.


tiggy - Oct 04, 2006 6:56:40 pm PDT #3718 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

tiggy, thanks for the link. Guess what I'm getting for my birthday next week?!

hmmm...a really expensive tattoo shirt? hee!

What do you think the odds are that the never-explained "remember Sally" comment from Beaver will come back into play with the Dick-maybe-rapist storyline?

somebody in the vm comm on lj actually posted an interview with RT the other day that solved the mystery of Sally.

Excerpt from The Star Ledger interview wtih Rob Thomas:

"There's a strange moment that is never answered and there was no way to answer it but meant a lot to me, where (older brother) Dick looks like he's going to punch Beaver for setting him up with the (male) prostitute, and Beaver warns him, 'I'll get even; remember Sally.' It just hangs there. No one knows who Sally is. We had in our head that Sally was a pet of Dick's that Beaver disappeared after Dick did something to upset him. Beaver has a dark side; he can take care of himself, if you're paying attention. It's tough to get that in there without pointing arrows at the bad guy."

or...what P-C said.

now i'm going to go pass out.


Kalshane - Oct 05, 2006 8:53:57 am PDT #3719 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think they would have been better-served using an obvious pet's name, like Fluffy or Duke or Rover (does anyone name their dog Rover anymore?) or something. Made it clear that it was a pet, and thus people not wondering who it was, but more something happened to the pet that makes Dick afraid.


ChiKat - Oct 05, 2006 8:58:53 am PDT #3720 of 5730
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Hmmm... my sister has a chocolate lab named Sally....


DCJensen - Oct 05, 2006 5:42:35 pm PDT #3721 of 5730
All is well that ends in pizza.

Hmmm... my sister has a chocolate lab named Sally....

Did it bite her?


sj - Oct 06, 2006 2:13:45 am PDT #3722 of 5730
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Something about Piz reminded me of Cassidy, and I am finding it very disturbing.


Kate P. - Oct 06, 2006 3:48:33 am PDT #3723 of 5730
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Hello peeps! I am watching VM now! This show is really good!

Re: the s3 premiere, I'm super excited to have Mac as a regular, and also glad to see Weevil in the credits again, although sad that he wasn't in the episode. He has just about the prettiest eyelashes of anyone ever.

I'm still kind of confused about the Kendall/Fitzpatricks storyline. Kendall & Cormac were grifters together, right? And lovers? But then while Cormac was in jail, she hooked up with Liam for the Casablancas con, or some other con? Then she asked Keith to help her run away and get back together with Cormac (why? because he was getting out of jail, or was there another reason she wanted to get out of Neptune?), so Keith goes to pick up Cormac from jail and brings him to where Kendall is hiding, only Vinnie is tracking him (for Liam?)? Does Cormac know that they're being tracked? Does that have anything to do with why he shoots Kendall? Why does he shoot Kendall??


sumi - Oct 06, 2006 4:39:28 am PDT #3724 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Geoffrey Chaucer's blog - - he's no fan of young maidens of the Mars clan!