and the crim prof was hott (who is that? He's so familiar!),

he played the principal(or whatever) on Joan of Arcadia and Piz was in that short-lived show Life As We Know It. the one with Kelly Osbourne.

at this point i'm not anti-Piz. i pretty much enjoyed him in every scene. except the scene when he and Wallace find all of his things missing from his car. they were both over-acting and it was just...bad.

I was pretty much there with the ep (although I don't like the new credits much. They're gonna take some getting used to.)

Like Piz just fine, but he's terribly, terribly doomed if they're setting him up as a romantic interest. Also fine wit Logan, although I prefer bitter, sarcastic!Logan to woobie!Logan.

Parker was amusing me immensely, much the way Gia did last season, up until the last scene. Curious to see where the character goes.

Ryan Hansen sold Dick's ... disintegration ... pretty well. In the past, he's always been a funny ... well, Dick ... but it got increasingly uncomfortable to watch him as the show progressed. Which is actually about the most character development we've seen out of Dick.

Interesting start. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.

Still love: Vinnie, Backup, KEITH!!!, and Wallace

Do not like: the opening credits. I can no longer boogie on my couch with excitement for a new episode! That was one of my favorite VM rituals!

from the WHA!?!?!? files: OMG The Fitzpatrick thing- just, no. The money everyone's bickering about is the money Kendall got from the Phoenix Landtrust shenanigans, right? The Fitzpatricks are involved in that money how? They just see money and want it? OK, that's so dramatically exciting, except, you know, NSM. I do not understand, or care about Cormac/Liam/Kendall shenanigans. But if it leads to Keith and Vinnie scenes, that will mollify my intense boredom somewhat.

Also, seriously, if Keith had the mad cash from Kendall, why is VM not going to Stanford? I know that Hearst was a given for meta reasons, but was the not going to Stanford thing ever explained?

Campus stuff was fine. Piz was fine. He brought more Wallace screen time, so that's enough to make me happy. Is Piz supposed to be a love interest for VM? @@ MOTW was fine. Was expecting the rape as the first mini arc, due to the setup ep from last season. Dick as rapist= red herring, and OK, so Veronica has to defend an accused rapist she knows and dislikes AGAIN? Or maybe she'll lead the offensive which will lead to the inevitable conflict with Logan.

Also: note to self, get Tivo IMMEDIATELY because OMG what were those Aerie Girls doing during commercial breaks? Besides setting my teeth on edge that is.

Kristin Bell: still making that dialogue pop. I love her. I liked The Parker as well.

Okay, I actually liked the new music! I was dismayed to see that so many people here didn't like it. I thought the visuals and the music over the new titles was a distinct and appreciated improvement.

I really liked this season opener. In general, I've been disappointed with a lot of the new fall series and I was thrilled with VM's opening. I thought it was a bit predictable in parts, but that's okay.

I hope it gets good ratings.

OMG what were those Aerie Girls doing during commercial breaks? Besides setting my teeth on edge that is.

Wrod. Wrody McWrod with wrodcakes. Actually, all the CW promo stuff is gratingly annoying. I'd take "Fresh from the Frog" over what I've seen so far.

Wouldn't Veronica still need a scholarship to go to Hearst? I was under the impression that that was an expensive school as well.

After all my bitching above, I will have to say that I had a lot of fun watching the episode, and even the Cormac parts were palatable at the time of viewing because, KEITH!!!! but the way that played out in the end had me lying in bed later boggled, confused, and kind of irked.

I am happy to have VM back, I missed it lots. It was happy-making to me.

I am just a-feared that this Fitzpatrick thing will confuse new viewers, when even I, who read TWOP and Livejournal, and this thread, and get these things explained and debated from every direction was like, Hmm.... WTF is this weird boring confusing mess?

Also the hackeysack scene had me laughing LIKE A LOON.

Also, "And what does that make all of us, Sargeant Sacks? WINNERS!"

tiggy, thanks for the link. Guess what I'm getting for my birthday next week?!

Also the hackeysack scene had me laughing LIKE A LOON.

"It's a white man's game."

Hated the new credits, so draggy and blah. I liked Piz but not as potential love interest (although I get why he instantly digs on Veronica, I mean, der!). He made me miss Undeclared.

I'm totally confused about the Cormac/Kendall thing as well. AND am confused about when it was decided Veronica would be going to Hearst.

But I loved Mac, loved Dick, loved Wallace as always, and loved Veronica. And her hottie professor.

Oh! And FRACK! hilarious