Zoe: Uh huh. River, honey? He's putting the hair away now. River: It'll still be there... waiting.

'Jaynestown'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Kalshane - Apr 12, 2006 7:18:37 am PDT #2295 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Woody may very well have picked Logan's essay not because of the essay, but because he wanted *Logan* to be his buttmonkey intern.

I don't think Woody chose Logan specifically. He seemed rather surprised to find Logan in the office, and told his secretary to cancel the photo op as soon as he realized it was Logan.


Polter-Cow - Apr 12, 2006 7:18:43 am PDT #2296 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

As for who was behind the bus crash, the biggest question here is Who Benefits?

Heeee. Nice.


Steph L. - Apr 12, 2006 7:33:51 am PDT #2297 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism

As for who was behind the bus crash, the biggest question here is Who Benefits?

Heeee. Nice.

Hey, you pick things up when you're obsessed with the World's Greatest Detective.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 12, 2006 7:45:02 am PDT #2298 of 5730
What is even happening?

First, why does Veronica keep coming back to the idea that the bus crash was All About Her? I feel like I'm missing something there -- at the end of last night's episode, what made her go back to thinking that *she* was the target? I honestly don't get that.

First of all, I think it's a natural reaction, given her narrow escape, and the fact that she's been made well aware in the past that plenty of people have grudges against both her and her dad.

Secondly, her name turning up on a dead Curly Moran's hand (coupled with Curly's trade and Aaron Echoll's associations) are going to lead her in that direction. I also think the dead rat struck a chord with her, even though it seems to have been meant only to scare the rich kids off the bus.

Woody may very well have picked Logan's essay not because of the essay, but because he wanted *Logan* to be his buttmonkey intern.
Woody seemed truly surprised that Logan was the winner, and this is backed up by the fact that he was going to have his secretary schedule a press/photo op until he came out and realized Logan won.

Good breakdown of the clues/spec though, overall. There's a lot of meat to chew there, Tep.


Kalshane - Apr 12, 2006 7:52:20 am PDT #2299 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Woody seemed truly surprised that Logan was the winner, and this is backed up by the fact that he was going to have his secretary schedule a press/photo op until he came out and realized Logan won.

Good call. Wish I'd said that. t /smart ass

I'm thinking about the payout Rhonda's family got and wonder if it was actually related to the bus crash in some way. Generally, when something unseemly is found in someone's food, there's a big hooplah about it, not a quiet settlement to the tune of $2 million.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 12, 2006 8:44:11 am PDT #2300 of 5730
What is even happening?

Good call. Wish I'd said that. </smart ass>

Teppy's post had so much in it, that I started responding to it, before I read the rest of the thread. Sorry for the duplication, Kalshane.

I'm thinking about the payout Rhonda's family got and wonder if it was actually related to the bus crash in some way. Generally, when something unseemly is found in someone's food, there's a big hooplah about it, not a quiet settlement to the tune of $2 million.
I know. And it feels like we were fed so much red herring last night, that maybe it wasn't all red, and we need to take a second look.


Kalshane - Apr 12, 2006 8:53:20 am PDT #2301 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Teppy's post had so much in it, that I started responding to it, before I read the rest of the thread. Sorry for the duplication, Kalshane.

No problem. I was bemused.

I know. And it feels like we were fed so much red herring last night, that maybe it wasn't all red, and we need to take a second look.

Very true. And the fact that we were seeing both dream and flashback versions of those killed in the bus crash makes it a little hard to pick out what's "real" and what's the workings of Veronica's subconcious when you're trying to remember what actually happened.

And a sudden thought occurs to me about Cervando. He said he won the jeans Dick ruined (or the money for them. I can't recall which) by pool sharking one of the Fitzpatricks. Seems odd, considering the supposed enmity between the two groups (at least until Thumper started stealing the PCHers away from Weevil) that they'd play pool together. Or that a PCHer could win so much money off them without violence insuing, at least. Maybe P-C's suspicions about Cervando were correct, or at least he was more involved with the goings on than any of the characters have suspected.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 12, 2006 9:02:44 am PDT #2302 of 5730
What is even happening?

Very true. And the fact that we were seeing both dream and flashback versions of those killed in the bus crash makes it a little hard to pick out what's "real" and what's the workings of Veronica's subconcious when you're trying to remember what actually happened.

I've started a post (in LJ) on the episode, trying to break out actual information and its source. It's taking forever though, and I may quit it, rather than finish it.


-t - Apr 12, 2006 10:03:21 am PDT #2303 of 5730
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

In Veronica's dream, dead gay student asked her "Why would *I* go to a baseball stadium?" (Which is a bit of a stereotype, but again, it tells the viewers something.)

That kind of bugged me, but Dick's report that he saw Peter (is that right? I have to say, Veronica's ghost's complaining that she has to put descriptive t-shirts on them to keep them straight was very funny) throwing away the basbeall tickets he'd won supports the idea that he wasn't there because he's a fan. [This paragraph brought to you by me working out small things that are obvious to everyone else. The #1 sponsor of -t posts]

I can't decide if I would be pleased or disappointed if Dick turns out to be complicated after all. I am stuck thinking that Beaver's "story of my life" wrt catching the shit fallout from Dick's dickishness is foreshadowing some major reveal. I can't see Beaver being involved in the bus crash, though. I can see Dick, Logan and Lucky following up the swimming-pool-on-fire lark with doing something to the bus.

I, too, am suspicious about the $2 mil settlement really being about fast food. And damn, Rhonda's [wait, was that Rhonda or was Rhonda voicemail girl? Maybe I'm thinking of Tina. I wish we'd gotten to know these dead characters earlier] sister was cold with that "better than taking the bus" comment.


Kalshane - Apr 12, 2006 10:17:26 am PDT #2304 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I, too, am suspicious about the $2 mil settlement really being about fast food. And damn, Rhonda's [wait, was that Rhonda or was Rhonda voicemail girl? Maybe I'm thinking of Tina. I wish we'd gotten to know these dead characters earlier] sister was cold with that "better than taking the bus" comment.

Rhonda was voicemail girl. Tina was Dick's fling. I thought Vette!chick was Rhonda's sister, but I could be confused.