Flames wouldn't be eternal if they actually consumed anything.

Lilah ,'Not Fade Away'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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sumi - Apr 11, 2006 5:57:34 pm PDT #2266 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Amyliz, I don't think the bitchy girl is getting that scholarship -- she didn't study for her English exam, remember?

Hopefully, that will be enough to put her behind Veronica.

I loved Logan and Wallace teaming up. There were lots of good things about the episode and I think that it's right that the point of Cervando pointing out that you had to know exactly where the bus was going to be in order to set off the charge at the right moment is the point of that sequence. No matter what the was said in the dream, I don't think that Weevil knew where the bus was -- remember, he and Veronica were even further back than the limo -- so I'm hoping that this means that the Weevil doing evil stuff scenes in the promo is a misdirect. . . or possibly means that Veronica suspects Weevil.

I wonder if Kendall would benefit from Dick and Beaver's deaths?


Amy - Apr 11, 2006 6:06:03 pm PDT #2267 of 5730
Because books.

I don't think the bitchy girl is getting that scholarship -- she didn't study for her English exam, remember?

Oh, right! I forgot the whole thing wouldn't be settled until final grades ... although it seems unlikely that Veronica will actually go to Stanford, if there's going to be a S3.

I wonder if Kendall would benefit from Dick and Beaver's deaths?

I also forgot to mention earlier that they emphasized, again, Cassidy taking the brunt of Dick's misbehavior, which could tie into whatever he's doing with Kendall and the real estate stuff ... and more, I guess.


Kalshane - Apr 11, 2006 6:17:30 pm PDT #2268 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Enjoyed the episode. Was definitely interesting and had some fun moments.

Yeah, I don't think Weevil's behind the bus crash. He had no reason for it, or if he was after Cervando, he wouldn't kill a busload of kids to get to him. Plus the whole driving a motorcycle with Veronica on the back and not being in view of the bus making the whole timing the triggering of the explosives rather difficult.


Laura - Apr 11, 2006 6:18:53 pm PDT #2269 of 5730
Our wings are not tired.

Dick and Beaver seem key, and then Weevil seems key, and of course Woody is key. Ah, so many things up in the air.

Veronica at Stanford would be sweet, but not going to happen.

I rewatched and had stuff I noticed, but now I forgot. Tired.


tiggy - Apr 11, 2006 6:23:31 pm PDT #2270 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

for the record, i don't think Weevil caused the bus crash. I do think that psuedo-Cervando had a guilty conscience and that's why he thinks Weevil caused it.


Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2006 6:29:09 pm PDT #2271 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But pseudo-Cervando isn't real. He's just in Veronica's head.


victor infante - Apr 11, 2006 6:30:50 pm PDT #2272 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

for the record, i don't think Weevil caused the bus crash. I do think that psuedo-Cervando had a guilty conscience and that's why he thinks Weevil caused it.

Or, as these are likely manifestations of Veronica's subconscious and not actual ghosts (except Lilly, of course, who's ghost actually saved Veronica that day) Veronica automatically assumes Weevil's guilty of something.


Hayden - Apr 11, 2006 7:44:34 pm PDT #2273 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

The girl who stole Veronica's scholarship?

I don't know why it took me so long to recognize her as an actor from Freaks and Geeks. Good casting! Speaking of, nice rip on Paris Hilton in the episode, too.

I'm a lot further down the Cassidy-is-responsible road than I meant to be.


BartlebyFink - Apr 11, 2006 9:24:43 pm PDT #2274 of 5730
One Hot Burrito!

I think tonight's episode was great. My roommate and I were just talking about the fundamental difference in this season and last: the lack of suspects.

The first season, anyone could have been Lilly Kane's killer and Veronica's raper.

This season, it pretty much came down to "was it Woody?" "Was it the fitzpatricks?" "Are they together?"

But after tonight, it could really be almost anyone again. Which is great. Casablanci? Fitzpatricks? Woody? Weevil? Kendall?


Topic!Cindy - Apr 12, 2006 2:06:58 am PDT #2275 of 5730
What is even happening?

I don't know why it took me so long to recognize her as an actor from Freaks and Geeks. Good casting! Speaking of, nice rip on Paris Hilton in the episode, too.

Oh my word, was that the woman who played Cindy Sanders on F&G? It never even pinged me, because of the dark hair. I just kept thinking how she could be a Cordelia.

I recognize the actor who played "Lucky" from something, but neither Scott nor I could figure out what show we would have seen him on, other than VM.

I was thoroughly into the episode, but when it ended, Scott and I both said (simultaneously, which at least was good for a laugh), "Okay, I didn't get that at all," by which we meant the ending.

It almost seemed like Keith was saying Dick and Beav were the targets for their life insurance, but Veronica knows it was Dick's father who said they could take a limo, and she didn't say so.

Granted, I can see Kendall setting it up, and have suspected she'd end up involved since we first saw her in one window on V's P.C. and Curly in another, but if the idea is that whoever triggered it, did so from the limo, that doesn't fit.

Of course I also wouldn't have expected Wallace to have it in him to watch that Echolls Family Smear show, right in Logan's home.

This wasn't my favorite episode. I will have to watch again, but I wasn't overly impressed. It didn't flow well. To some extent, I expected that, because I knew there'd be dreams involved, but there was stuff the didn't feel right to me in the non-dream scenes.

The make-out scene was totally hot.

The hottest part of all was when Logan clutched Veronica to him, as he brushed off Dick and Lucky.

I'm a lot further down the Cassidy-is-responsible road than I meant to be.

If it's either Weevil or Cassidy in a conscious, purposeful way, I will be disappointed, because I don't think we've been shown murderous characters (with the possible exception of Weevil setting up Felix, and even then, there are other issues at stake).

In particular, I don't believe we've been shown that either would have had the capacity for murder [particularly a murder that got so many people, and not just specific enemy(ies)] at the time of the bus crash.

P.S. I'm not counting out Weevil's cousin who got bounced from the PCHers last year, though.