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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 2:57:47 pm PDT #2197 of 5730
What is even happening?

Who is Peter Ferrer?

Wasn't that the name of the kid who died in the bus crash who posted in the gay student's chatroom (under the name of MIZZ P) about the "outings of all outings" in Neptune? If so, then perhaps the upcoming outing was about Woody.

Oh, okay. I don't manage to retain stuff like that. I do remember the MIZZ P, though.

If Woody killed to stay in the closet, then I hope that he did not molest Beaver. It's not that gays can't be pedophiles, but it's really playing into a bad stereotype. (Vast majority of pedophiles are not homosexual, but there are quite a few on the far-right who refuse to recognize that and continually link being gay with pedophilia.)
Maybe it's an outing of him as a pedophile, rather than as a homosexual?

Woody is married with children. There are plenty of pedophiles (maybe most) who have het adult sex lives but prey on victims regardless of the sex of the victim, or, who prey on victims the same sex as they.

Or? Maybe he falls into a gray area. There are pedophiles who prey on post-pubescents. They're sometimes called ephebophiles, to differentiate. It's not the same issue as pedophilia. I mean, Logan (who Woody hit on last night) is no child. I don't know if he's 17 or 18, but he's a sexually mature person, with a body much more adult-like than child-like. It's not a pathology to find him sexually attractive. It's inappropriate if he's a minor and since Woody is both an authority figure, and a married parent of a child the same age, and many people would find it immoral, but it's not gross, in the same way pedophilia of the pre-pubescent is.


Gris - Apr 06, 2006 4:39:47 pm PDT #2198 of 5730
Hey. New board.

Okay, I just watched the episode and I frickin' loved it. My favorite episode since, probably, season one.

I... don't really have more thoughts than that. I wish I had enough time and brainpower to invest in actual contemplation of it, like I did last year, but I just don't.

So here is a random list of things I liked:

1) Dialogue. Sizzled. I mean, it usually does, but it seemed especially hot this ep. Loved the shocker thing, Logan with Gia at the dance, and the whole Veronica/Mac discussion about boys and their silliness.

2) Big mystery! Finally! Well, one of them anyway.

3) Woody soooooo creepy.

4) Hello, ironic justice as Logan pushes the plunger to kill Thumper, who looks to be the boy who actually killed Felix. Thus making Logan an unintentional murderer of a PCHer for reals, for an extra layer of irony. Plus, that last scene, all the way through the laughing children, was super-evocative.

5) Poor Mac! Woes! She must clearly run into the arms of the nearest small blond (totally bicurious) detective girl for comfort!

6) Also, it was good.

I need sleep. But I am happy with the show again, and, for the first time in many episodes, eagerly anticipate the next ep.


tiggy - Apr 06, 2006 6:46:50 pm PDT #2199 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

cold open's up. may i be the first to say, WTF?!?!


Kalshane - Apr 06, 2006 8:07:21 pm PDT #2200 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

First in a long line of many, I think. So confused now.


UTTAD - Apr 07, 2006 12:17:45 am PDT #2201 of 5730
Strawberry disappointment.

Aw man, poor Mac. I support D Griswold's solution the her pain.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 07, 2006 1:49:19 am PDT #2202 of 5730
What is even happening?

cold open's up. may i be the first to say, WTF?!?!

That thing will never play on my P.C. tiggy, if you get a chance later today, can you please let me know what happened?

UTTAD, behave yourself, man.


tiggy - Apr 07, 2006 2:25:33 am PDT #2203 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Ask Ausiello: UPN just sent out a press release about last night’s Veronica Mars ratings. Here’s an excerpt: “VERONICA MARS SCORED ITS BEST PERFORMANCE IN FOUR MONTHS (SINCE 12/7/05) IN VIEWERS (3.0mil), ADULTS 18-34 (1.5/4), WOMEN 18-34 (2.1/5) AND WOMEN 18-49 (1.6/4).” In related news, three posts today and counting. I’m outta control!!

And on the netlets, new episodes of "America's Next Top Model" (households: 3.3/6, #14; adults 18-49: 2.4, #T11) and "Veronica Mars" (households: 1.9/3, #16; adults 18-49: 1.2, #16) on UPN (households: 2.6/4, #5; adults 18-49: 1.8, #5) easily topped fresh installments of "One Tree Hill" (households: 2.0/3, #15; adults 18-49: 1.3, #15) and "The Bedford Diaries" (households: 1.3/2, #17; adults 18-49: 0.8, #17) on The WB (households: 1.6/2, #6; adults 18-49: 1.0, #6).

HELL YES!! best numbers yet, i believe.

That thing will never play on my P.C. tiggy, if you get a chance later today, can you please let me know what happened?

i'm doing one better and uploading it to YSI. i'll post the link as soon as it's finished. if that doesn't work, i'll give you a rundown.


tiggy - Apr 07, 2006 2:40:06 am PDT #2204 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

[link]

if that doesn't work, i also have it in real player format.


Laura - Apr 07, 2006 3:20:54 am PDT #2205 of 5730
Our wings are not tired.

Poor Mac. Yeah, the Beav does have some serious issues. His pushing Mac away doesn't feel like gay to me though. Another issue.

Thanks tiggy. I can play those in IE, but not Firefox. Annoying.


UTTAD - Apr 07, 2006 3:27:59 am PDT #2206 of 5730
Strawberry disappointment.

Thanks tiggy. So the plot thickens or twistens or does what it usually does on VM.