But Duncan was impaired as well.
But being impaired didn't erase the knowledge that she was possibly his sister. It just erased his self-control.
Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?
Riley ,'Sleeper'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Steph L. - Dec 21, 2005 11:04:21 am PST #1554 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Topic!Cindy - Dec 21, 2005 11:11:34 am PST #1555 of 5730
What is even happening?
But being impaired didn't erase the knowledge that she was possibly his sister. It just erased his self-control.Right, but Veronica and Duncan did not have any of the natural incest tabboo feelings toward one another, because they hadn't grown up thinking of each other as siblings.
It's skeevy as hell that he both had sex with her when he thought she was his sister, and then had to live with the idea that he'd slept with his sister. It is also understandable that he would be physically attracted to her still (I'm talking about at the time of the party), and that when drugged with an inhibition removing drug, the parts of his brain that would normally be turned off by her would be asleep on the job.
§ ita § - Dec 21, 2005 12:20:12 pm PST #1556 of 5730
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it restricts it to a misdemeanor, Cindy, from my reading--as opposed to a possible felony. I know in MI my male cousins had these ages, etc drilled into them while they were still underage (it's 17 there) to get them to not sleep with girls their age.
Polter-Cow - Dec 21, 2005 1:30:18 pm PST #1557 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
P-C, where are you, darn it.
I was at work!
He's probably off watching Farscape.
I just watched "Nerve" last night OMG. I've been waiting all day to get home so I can watch "The Hidden Memory"!
And I pretty much agree with Couch Baron on the rape resolution.
meara - Dec 21, 2005 1:59:23 pm PST #1558 of 5730
OK, that "VM is not feminist" thing drove me batty. Partly because of the writing style, partly becuase I disagreed with their "facts"...I did NOT get from the resolution last year that Veronica wasn't raped. I just got that it was no longer something she could get "justice" for, but...
Thing is, technically, yes, Veronica was raped. She was in a state where she was unable to give consent (and god knows, freshman year of college they drilled THAT one into the guys, re: getting a girl drunk!). HOWEVER, I think that if she'd woken up the next morning and Duncan were still there, and was like "oh, fuck, we were really drunk"? She probably would've thought it was horribly unfortunate, and been pissed and so on, but not classified it as rape. Certainly wouldn't have gone to the police. Since she did think of it as rape, and kept thinking that for a year, well...even though she eventually found out what the story was, it's still fucked with her psyche (plus all the other shit that happened before/after, of course), and made her a fun, fucked-up character to watch on TV. Yay for that.
This is similar to how I find Logan hot and awesome and fascinating on my TV screen, but would hate him and run away in real life. I'm all for television sending good messages and not subtly enforcing racism or sexism, but...at the same time, TV is NOT REAL LIFE.
Consuela - Dec 21, 2005 4:18:03 pm PST #1559 of 5730
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I just watched "Nerve" last night OMG.
Heee! And Froon hooks another one.
Beware the chair!
Hayden - Jan 04, 2006 6:03:41 am PST #1560 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
So, does the show return tonight and no one is mentioning it?
sumi - Jan 04, 2006 6:05:34 am PST #1561 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!
It's a repeat tonight. It returns on the 12th.
Hayden - Jan 04, 2006 6:31:02 am PST #1562 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Thanks, Sumi.
Mogget - Jan 04, 2006 8:57:20 am PST #1563 of 5730
Neptunesite says no new episodes till January 18th.