Willow ,'Empty Places'
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the Ivy song used during the Logan watching the tape scene is a recycle. it was used in episode 1x03, Meet John Smith, when V was driving a bleeding Donut to the hospital after his bleacher dive.
is RT trying to make a point? someone want to do a compare/contrast of those two scenes?
Can someone give me a synopsis? I didn't get it because of the weather, and I don't want to wait until Saturday- feel free to describe the Logan scenes in detail.
I won't bother with the jury story because it wasn't very interesting.
The tapes of Aaron and Lily were stolen from the police lockup. It was obviously an inside job. Logan emailed all the police people and purchased the tapes, watched them in a teary scene, then destroyed them. excuse me while I wipe my eyes Keith was hired by Woody to solve the case of the missing tapes. Keith was soft hearted with Logan.
And Wallace came back!!!
It seems odd that a couple times they implied that the case against Aaron was sunk without the tapes. Doesn't ring true to me. Hmmm.
well...they don't really have anything else to tie him to Lilly besides hearsay from witnesses.
the attempted murder charges will still hold though.
Well I suppose that's the only real evidence linking him to Lily's murder. Not so the Veronica kidnapping and attempted murder.
ETA: Nice x-post! Note each seperate point made in the correct order, one after another, almost as if mine were a faint echo of tiggy's. 5.9 I say!
The worst part is that some day, somebody's going to stumble upon Twelve Angry Men on AMC and say "Dude! It's just like that Veronica Mars episode."
Amen to that.
Yeah, I hated the rush at the end so much that I hope the whole Meg thing is a coverup for her abduction.
Also, P-C, if you want to meet up for a beer or some of our excellent local Tex-Mex while you're in town, let me know.
This episode was so disappointing for VM. Both of those plots had major problems I couldn't get past.
Why did Leo steal *all* the tapes, except for plot convenience? He didn't need them all to sell to the tabs, and the case against Aaron Echolls would be fine. He needed to because he didn't know at the time that he was going to sell them to Logan, so Logan could destroy them. @@ infinity. Annoying, since that was the argument I advanced in the middle of the episode to Bob to show that they *weren't* stolen for profit. And apparently if you have Downs you can't live a normal life without money. Stupid, stupid motivation.
And then the jury thing. I guess it's ok to convict people even if the evidence isn't convincing beyond a reasonable doubt? Based primarily on evidence acquired outside trial? That verdict will be overturned so fast Veronica's head will spin. In the real world, that case had JNOV written all over it.
Why did Leo steal *all* the tapes, except for plot convenience
OMG, yes
wrt Meg dying, if it was murder, I don't see how it can end well wrt the fake ending from last week.
My biggest problem with the jury thing (and I recognize all the other problems) was that it was so utterly predictable.