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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 1:10:15 am PST #1385 of 5730
What is even happening?

That being said, it could have been someone else and meant as a message: Jackie's father, for example, seemed to resent Woody's hold on him. But that doesn't feel right. We've sen his gambling debts come up twice, and have yet to get a picture of their significance.

I suspect they're significant, because they've come up, and because so much of Jackie's storyline seems to have something to do with money. But they could just be significant where Woody Goodman is concerned, rather than where Terrance and Jackie Cook are concerned. Still (re: Jackie) there was the whole credit-card thing in the episode where she punk'd Veronica. She was introduced when the Jag she wasn't supposed to take got smashed at school, and most of her lines had to do with getting the insurance money to pay for the repairs. She's also talked like she's used to having money: telling stories about meeting movie stars; flying to Europe; having show biz boyfriends; generally living the high life. Also in this vein, although the athlete featured in that autographed photo with Curly Moran was not Jackie's dad, it made it clear Curly knew lots of different kinds of famous people.

Maybe Gia's the killer. There's something really off about her. The motive may have something to do with the Cassavetes, or more specifically, Dick.

Maybe, but she had no way to know she WOULDN'T be on that bus.

I don't think it is safe to assume that she had no way to know she wouldn't be on the bus. Sure, the bus took them there, and sure, Dick offered her a ride home so she took it, but we never had to see her deciding to get on the bus. Dick called daddy for a limo, before Gia would have had to make an obvious choice that would tip off anyone. Had the Casablancas limo not been on its way, Gia could have then taken any number of steps to stay off the bus. She could have told her dad she wanted to hang with him for the rest of the day, or hired a limo herself.

That said, I don't think it makes sense (so far) that Gia's the killer (or mastermind). I can't see a motive, because she didn't really know anyone, yet.

Dick and-or Beaver? That one's got possibilities. I can think of all sorts of reasons Kendall would want them out of the way
Sure. Kendall had no funds in her own name. Who knows how their trusts were structured? We know their mother is the trustee, but we don't know who their beneficiaries were have been, nor do we know any of the specifics of her pre-nup with Big Dick, except for the adultery-nulification clause.

Also? If it Kendall were to be the killer, it's possible we've seen a clue hiding in plain sight. When Veronica was first investigating Curly Moran, AND when she first took on Beaver's assignment of tailing Kendall, she (Veronica) was doing a search on the computer. At one point, we saw a screen shot with a picture of Curly, and a separate (unrelated) head shot of Kendall. I think Veronica then went on to do a full photo search on Kendall, and Curly was forgotten for the moment. Veronica (and the VMVO) didn't say anything to tie the two. It seemed more of a case of having two web pages open at once, but it still seemed funny to me to see it. For a split second, I thought we were going to see some tie between Curly and Kendall, but that's not where the story went, at all.

I asked yesterday, but kind of buried the question at the bottom of a long post (much like this statement), the name of Weevil's cousin--the one who committed the credit card fraud on the Echolls and let the grandmother and then Weevil take the fall, for a while. I found his name, it is Chardo.

We don't really know what happened to Chardo. Weevil & the PCHers took him to the beach, and Weevil kicks him out of the PCHers. It's clear the PCHers are going to give him a beating, but Weevil's final instructions to Felix are to pull them off, before they go too far. It's not out of the realm of the possible that Chardo has somehow fallen in with the Fighting Fitzpatricks.


victor infante - Dec 07, 2005 2:55:22 am PST #1386 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's not out of the realm of the possible that Chardo has somehow fallen in with the Fighting Fitzpatricks.

It's not, but as with Marcos' boyfriend, I think I'd (mostly) discount Chardo because he feels (again, not defiinitive) like he was meant just for that story, not to be a lasting presence. We don't get reminded of those two, and if there's one thing I've the VM staff does, it's that they keep relevant details in frame without drawing attention to them.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 3:40:46 am PST #1387 of 5730
What is even happening?

We don't get reminded of those two, and if there's one thing I've the VM staff does, it's that they keep relevant details in frame without drawing attention to them.

I agree. That said, I don't think Aaron made an appearance until the sixth episode of season 1. Weevil's family has been mentioned this season (Logan bought the house they've rented), and Weevil and the PCHers have been prominent. I still think Chardo's mostly just in the "can't rule him out" column, though. The main reason I want to tie Chardo into the PCHers/Fighting Fitzpatricks scenario is because of the mention of crime so often being personal.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 3:42:04 am PST #1388 of 5730
What is even happening?

cereal...

if there's one thing I've the VM staff does, it's that they keep relevant details in frame without drawing attention to them.
I meant to add that what you've said here again brings to mind that shot of Veronica's PC, where both Curly and Kendall were up on the screen.


Narrator - Dec 07, 2005 8:56:17 am PST #1389 of 5730
The evil is this way?

See, isn't it fun when Topic!Cindy luvs a show -- much goodly posting.


Gris - Dec 07, 2005 9:13:17 am PST #1390 of 5730
Hey. New board.

I think Chardo was probably arrested for credit card fraud and sent to jail, actually, since his being 18 (so Weevil could get out with Juvie, but he couldn't) was mentioned as the main reason Grandma let him take the fall. I always assumed that after they beat him, they called the cops and let them pick up the pieces.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 11:23:32 am PST #1391 of 5730
What is even happening?

See, isn't it fun when Topic!Cindy luvs a show -- much goodly posting.

Narrator! *smoooch*

TV Guide has a Q&A up with Rob Thomas: [link]

One mild anti-spoiler, one mild indication of possible locations for episodes.


meara - Dec 07, 2005 1:54:22 pm PST #1392 of 5730

Oh, grr--someone asked a question I'd've liked to know the answer to (asking if Logan (or anyone else) ever found out why Duncan broke up with Veronica in the first place) and he answered with ....why Duncan broke up with her. Which, yeah. The question was, Duncan knows, but do OTHER people? Interesting...


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2005 1:56:05 pm PST #1393 of 5730
What is even happening?

Yeah, that annoyed me too, meara. I think he missed the point of the question.

P-C, email Rob, will ya?


Polter-Cow - Dec 07, 2005 2:22:22 pm PST #1394 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That said, I don't think Aaron made an appearance until the sixth episode of season 1.

He was mentioned in the pilot, however, though not by name.

P-C, email Rob, will ya?

What do I look like, the Official Fandom Go-Between? :-P

I may or may not stick in that question when I e-mail him tonight to tell him I'm coming to Austin.