Mal: You are very much lacking in imagination. Zoe: I imagine that's so, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Stephanie - Dec 01, 2005 7:52:08 am PST #1260 of 5730
Trust my rage

I'm trying to remember Meg-details from the purity test episode.

IIRC, someone faked it to make her look like a *big time slut* and it wasn't true.

I said something similar earlier, but I've been trying to identify exactly why this Meg storyline bugs me so much. I guess it is because, for me, VM is written to be improbable but not impossible. It's not Buffy, where anything could happen. VM does stuff most high schoolers don't, but it's at least possible that she could. But to me, this Meg-line just seems over-the-top unbelievable and not at all fitting with Meg from last season.

(This is mostly in reference the mother-murdering-daughter extra scene.)


Katie M - Dec 01, 2005 7:56:58 am PST #1261 of 5730
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I don't think they turned Meg into a bitch. She was lashing out at Veronica because she was hurt that Duncan had left her and taken up with Veronica, and heck, Veronica had trouble dealing with Meg too when Meg dated Duncan months after he left Veronica.


Vonnie K - Dec 01, 2005 7:59:35 am PST #1262 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Yeah, I didn't care for the alternative ending either. Neptune is a stylized, hyperreal sort of a place lit in the noir light, but even the more melodramatic storylines from last season (maybe-incest and lurid murder and all) felt somehow plausible and grounded. The whole bit with Meg's crazy parents and the pillow-over-pregnant-girl feel to me like a line-crosser to the land of camp.


Katie M - Dec 01, 2005 8:00:42 am PST #1263 of 5730
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I did think last night's episode was straining at the bonds of suspension of disbelief, though. Of course no one knew that the Echolls had adopted the prom baby! Because it's not like they would have publicized that! Of course the foster mother wouldn't have heard of the Mars detective family, despite apparently living in Neptune and being familiar with the Echolls case! Of course Keith will give Veronica information about the prom baby!

I had to squint my eyes a lot to get through it all. Ironically, Meg surviving the crash and still being pregnant doesn't bother me a bit; that's just, you know, plot-necessary. Like vampires.


Vonnie K - Dec 01, 2005 8:09:53 am PST #1264 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

The A-plot *was* contrived, I agree, but the pay-off of Clemmons with his little smirk at his new name plate delighted me so much that I decided I didn't care how we got there. And I liked Alyson Hannigan's performance quite a bit here, more than I did in her appearances in the last season. Who knew Trina had layers?


Katie M - Dec 01, 2005 8:56:31 am PST #1265 of 5730
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, I liked AH's Trina a lot more this time around.


Nutty - Dec 01, 2005 8:56:48 am PST #1266 of 5730
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

You know what I just realized? The pillow-over-the-face thing? Shouldn't work on somebody hooked up to lots and lots of vital statistics machines.

Doesn't it take like a good 10 minutes to smother a person? And, during those 10 minutes, aren't that person's vitals going haywire? And when vitals go haywire, don't alarm bells go off and summon all manner of people? Isn't that kind of the whole point of being hooked up to those machines?

I bring this up partly because season 1 of 24 did the same thing, although it was less glaringly a reality-mistake in a universe where cell phones are allowed in the ICU and you can recover from a heart attack in 20 minutes (but a broken ankle takes 4 hours).


sj - Dec 01, 2005 9:11:49 am PST #1267 of 5730
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Nor this thread.

Sorry, Jon. I'm a bad skimmer.


Calli - Dec 01, 2005 9:17:59 am PST #1268 of 5730
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Meg's pregnancy makes me a little less eyerolly about her personality change around. If she got dumped by Duncan for Veronica and then found out she was pregnant, I can see where she would see it as a life-ruining combo of events, especially considering her crazy family.


Jon B. - Dec 01, 2005 9:17:59 am PST #1269 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Sorry, Jon. I'm a bad skimmer.

Ahhh, I was just teasin'.