Thanks DJ!

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it's Comcast's version. it's the best invention ever.

Except when the first one you get is dysfunctional and you have to get a new one within the week, and the next one you get dies in less than two months, and now you have a new one, a new model, having lost all your recordings.

Kalshane, I'm not sure what to make of what they've been doing with Meg either. I hope there're some revealing flashbacks in our future.

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I really liked this episode, but I really miss Wallace too. Does anybody know when he's going to return? They're not waiting all the way until February sweeps, are they?

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I miss Wallace too, Invisible Green. I don't know when he's due back. I just keep taking his face in the credits as a good sign. I don't think there will be too many episodes between now and February sweeps, sadly.

Where do I find this alternate ending?

Also, could somebody whitefont the highlights of the REAL ending? I was watching, but not paying as much attention as I should've been (I will... acquire... the episode for a later rewatch tomorrow, but am curious now).

D. Griswold, take yourself here: [link]

There are links to both the original ending and the alternate ending. As Jon mentioned, they show the whole last nine minutes and nothing is changed until the last minute/minute and a half or so, so depending on how much you want to see, you might want to skip most of it.

Here's the breakdown of the difference:

Original ending: Veronica gets a call from the hospital to pick up Abel Koontz's belongings. She's walking down the hallway with the box of his stuff, and sees that for once, nobody is hanging around Meg's room, so she goes in, like the nosy little thing she is. She's looking at all the monitors and sees there are two heart monitors--one with a rate of something like 180 and the other with a rate with something like 60. She's confuzzled. She moves the table (you know, those hospital tables that come across the bed, in front of the patient?) and sees Meg has a pregnant belly. She leaves. Meg wakes.

Alternate ending: It's the same until Veronica sees Meg's pregnant belly. Then she hears someone coming, so she ducks in the bathroom. We see Meg's mother come in, but then the rest of the time, the camera is on a hiding Veronica. We can only hear Meg's mom talking, turning the volume back up on Meg's music (gospel/country-style hymn), and telling Meg to rest, and that everything was going to be all right, and not to worry--things like that. I don't think Veronica could see what was going on--probably because of the privacy curtains. We hear the mother leave. The monitors start making that alarm sound they make when a patient's hart has stopped.

Veronica comes out of the bathroom, walks around the curtain to Meg's bed, and sees a pillow over her face. She lifts the pillow, and is holding it up above Meg, in much the same position she would, if she were going to smother Meg. A nurse comes in and asks, "What have you done?" then calls for security.

Was watching last week's epsiode again tonight, and I love how wrong Veronica and Keith are all the time. I thought it was just that episode, but no, this episode followed the trend of consistently jumping to incorrect conclusions confidently explained to befuddled "villians." Well, except for Principal Clemmons-- I guess he knew all along that the principal fathered that child, but I find it hard to believe that he masterminded Veronica finding it out from her mother's file.

Agreed on Veronica and Keith. It makes them more accessible or something. They're smart and dogged, but they're not omniscient.

I thought it was a little hinky that Clemmons "punished" Veronica for snooping by having her clean up files. I mean, really. He puts a nosy student who has stolen and key and tampered with files in charge of files??? I knew he had to be up to something, so I didn't have trouble swallowing that he masterminded the reveal about Mary and Principal Whatshishoosey.

This episode was the first time I've really enjoyed Alyson as Trina. The other times she took me out of the show. I don't know if it was anything AH did. I suspect it was just me, looking to see where she was still Willow and wasn't still Willow. I don't think I've ever seen her in any show or movie, other than BtVS.

That was a very fun episode. I will admit to thinking at the beginning when Veronica was talking to Mary that Mary had probably said "friend" not "fiend" -- because who says fiend in that context?

Me, too. I was pretty sure of it, given (continued...)

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( continues...) Mary's expression, too.

that's an interesting thought. maybe the baby is the Chris persons. how far along did Meg look mommy-type people? if Duncan and Meg broke up on the last day of school(and this assuming they didn't have post-break-up hanky panky) could it be his based on her size?

What Plei said, basically, combined with the fact that this would be (as far as we know) a first time pregnancy in a fit 17 or 18 year old body. Her belly was certainly was big enough to be Duncan's, and I think they got together early enough that her belly wasn't too big for Duncan to be the father, but that seems like too easy of an answer. I hope it is his, though. If it isn't Duncan's, then I hope it's this Chris person's, or at least, I hope it's not her father's, because ewwww.

Mac was adorkable. As was Beaver.

They were. I think I became an instant 'shipper.

Good god, the HSQ in this show just never lets up, does it? I'm still reeling. I think my favorite subplot was Van Clemmons's scheme. Excellent smug smile on his face at the end.

It never does let up. It's like 24, but with actual continuity and a discernable arc.

Favorite Logan line: "Rode Hard, meet Put Up Wet." Loved the snarking between CC and AH. Although the Weevil/Logan bathroom fight was right up there.

Yeah, I have to re-watch that Kendall, Duncan, Trina, Logan scene, again. That was hysterical. Also, the bathroom brawl with Weevil and Logan. I'm going to love seeing them work together on this.

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I thought it was a little hinky that Clemmons "punished" Veronica for snooping by having her clean up files.

Me too. I was very suspicious of that. I think he got the bright idea after Veronica showed up at his house - tracking down his son. Which also solved another problem for me: why did VP decide to punish Veronica *now*?

Her belly was certainly was big enough to be Logan's, and I think they got together early enough that her belly wasn't too big for Logan to be the father, but that seems like too easy of an answer. I hope it is his, though. If it isn't Duncan's, then I hope it's this Chris person's, or at least, I hope it's not her father's, because ewwww.

You mean Duncan every time above, right?

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I did mean Duncan, le nubian, and I'll correct.

Must have Logan on the brain. *cough*

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I guess I'll be the lone dissenter, but this was kinda meh for me. There were bits I liked(The Mac/Cassady scenes, the snarkfest in the hotel) but the ending put it too far in the soap catagory for me. Part of it is the plausability factor(so not only was Meg the only one to survive the crash, but she didn't miscarry either?) but part of it is that I have no sense of the timing of things. How long has it been since the crash? Meg didn't look pregnant before the crash, so either it's been 5 or so months since the crash(and the timing for it to be Duncan's kid is wrong) or she hid things really well.

At any rate, judging from the promos, Veronica's assuming the worst. Which makes me nervous that they're going to go for the V/D breakup based on what Veronica thought he did rather than them breaking up because they're no longer compatable. (Note: I am not a Veronica/Logan shipper. I'd prefer it if she realized both guys were train wrecks and stayed away from them. I do recognize the problems in the Veronica/Duncan relationship)

Anyhow, I just needed to get that off my chest.

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I think he got the bright idea after Veronica showed up at his house - tracking down his son. Which also solved another problem for me: why did VP decide to punish Veronica *now*?

Well, depending on how much he knew, he also knew Trina would be in town.

I guess I'll be the lone dissenter, but this was kinda meh for me.

Oh, you're not alone. I didn't love it either. Mostly just kinda liked it. Ish.

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How long has it been since the crash? Meg didn't look pregnant before the crash, so either it's been 5 or so months since the crash(and the timing for it to be Duncan's kid is wrong) or she hid things really well.

No, it doesn't have to be five or six months since the crash. She needs five or six months (at least, I'd say she was probably at least in her 7th month, if this weren't a TV pregnancy) total, to get that big, but she wouldn't need five or six months since the crash to get that big. She'd only need a decent amount of time since conception to get that big. It's easily believable that she wasn't showing at the time of the crash (particularly when clothed) and then popped in the time since the accident.

I wore my regular size 8 (or 10, I think 8) jeans until my fifth month of pregnancy. If you saw me clothed, you wouldn't have thought I was pregnant (unless you were checking out my breasts and my hair).

Also (fyi for the people who haven't been pregnant) pregnancy months are reported weird. If you ask a pregnant woman how far along she is, and she says, "Five months," she may well mean what many people would think of as four months. It's sort of like how my daughter just turned seven, so she's in her eighth year.

Also? I don't find it unbelievable that she didn't miscarry. I took a horrible fall down a flight of stairs early on in my pregnancy with Julia. It was the kind of fall that, if it happened on TV or in the movies, I would have miscarried. I was terribly upset. When I called my OB, he didn't even want to see me. He said early on, the baby is so tiny, and so well cushioned that unless I took a blow to the abdomen, it was unlikely the baby minded the fall at all. In the real world, some pregnancies stick and some don't. Some miscarriages are induced by trauma, but not every trauma is going to induce a miscarriage. The bus landed in water. I can buy Meg's still pregnant.

Oooh! Lookie. My very first VM fanwank.

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