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Topic!Cindy - Dec 01, 2005 2:29:22 am PST #1226 of 5730
What is even happening?

I did mean Duncan, le nubian, and I'll correct.

Must have Logan on the brain. *cough*


Sheryl - Dec 01, 2005 3:18:52 am PST #1227 of 5730
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

I guess I'll be the lone dissenter, but this was kinda meh for me. There were bits I liked(The Mac/Cassady scenes, the snarkfest in the hotel) but the ending put it too far in the soap catagory for me. Part of it is the plausability factor(so not only was Meg the only one to survive the crash, but she didn't miscarry either?) but part of it is that I have no sense of the timing of things. How long has it been since the crash? Meg didn't look pregnant before the crash, so either it's been 5 or so months since the crash(and the timing for it to be Duncan's kid is wrong) or she hid things really well.

At any rate, judging from the promos, Veronica's assuming the worst. Which makes me nervous that they're going to go for the V/D breakup based on what Veronica thought he did rather than them breaking up because they're no longer compatable. (Note: I am not a Veronica/Logan shipper. I'd prefer it if she realized both guys were train wrecks and stayed away from them. I do recognize the problems in the Veronica/Duncan relationship)

Anyhow, I just needed to get that off my chest.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2005 3:26:58 am PST #1228 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think he got the bright idea after Veronica showed up at his house - tracking down his son. Which also solved another problem for me: why did VP decide to punish Veronica *now*?

Well, depending on how much he knew, he also knew Trina would be in town.

I guess I'll be the lone dissenter, but this was kinda meh for me.

Oh, you're not alone. I didn't love it either. Mostly just kinda liked it. Ish.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 01, 2005 3:41:17 am PST #1229 of 5730
What is even happening?

How long has it been since the crash? Meg didn't look pregnant before the crash, so either it's been 5 or so months since the crash(and the timing for it to be Duncan's kid is wrong) or she hid things really well.

No, it doesn't have to be five or six months since the crash. She needs five or six months (at least, I'd say she was probably at least in her 7th month, if this weren't a TV pregnancy) total, to get that big, but she wouldn't need five or six months since the crash to get that big. She'd only need a decent amount of time since conception to get that big. It's easily believable that she wasn't showing at the time of the crash (particularly when clothed) and then popped in the time since the accident.

I wore my regular size 8 (or 10, I think 8) jeans until my fifth month of pregnancy. If you saw me clothed, you wouldn't have thought I was pregnant (unless you were checking out my breasts and my hair).

Also (fyi for the people who haven't been pregnant) pregnancy months are reported weird. If you ask a pregnant woman how far along she is, and she says, "Five months," she may well mean what many people would think of as four months. It's sort of like how my daughter just turned seven, so she's in her eighth year.

Also? I don't find it unbelievable that she didn't miscarry. I took a horrible fall down a flight of stairs early on in my pregnancy with Julia. It was the kind of fall that, if it happened on TV or in the movies, I would have miscarried. I was terribly upset. When I called my OB, he didn't even want to see me. He said early on, the baby is so tiny, and so well cushioned that unless I took a blow to the abdomen, it was unlikely the baby minded the fall at all. In the real world, some pregnancies stick and some don't. Some miscarriages are induced by trauma, but not every trauma is going to induce a miscarriage. The bus landed in water. I can buy Meg's still pregnant.

Oooh! Lookie. My very first VM fanwank.


Amy - Dec 01, 2005 3:48:12 am PST #1230 of 5730
Because books.

Oooh! Lookie. My very first VM fanwank.

TV pregnancies are eminently wankable. But, yeah, I can buy it, too.


DebetEsse - Dec 01, 2005 4:01:58 am PST #1231 of 5730
Woe to the fucking wicked.

My big problem(s) with the alt ending is 1) Why did Meg's mother wait that long? 2) I have a hard time believing she knew V was there, and, if not, then why do that then. Much better to have a scapegoat.

Overall, I like the questions raised by the aired ending. How long has Meg been awake? Was the whole coma thing a cover?

I also prefer the possibility of live baby to thwarted potential-baby, even if they do manage to revive Meg.


Amy - Dec 01, 2005 4:14:46 am PST #1232 of 5730
Because books.

Yeah, I have to say I don't especially love Veronica being under suspicion yet again. Would've been much better if it had been Duncan who was found with the pillow, for instance. We'll see. I'm not getting how they're going to reconcile the two endings next week, at all.


sumi - Dec 01, 2005 4:34:29 am PST #1233 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

They are promising a character's death in the promo. . .

I would also prefer that Veronica break up with Duncan because they are incompatible rather than because she thinks that he's the father of Meg's baby. Meanwhile, we need to know who this Chris person is. There is no real reason to think that it's Chris for Christopher rather than Christine, is there?


DebetEsse - Dec 01, 2005 4:37:34 am PST #1234 of 5730
Woe to the fucking wicked.

sumi, I wonder if that's Meg to reconcile the two...

I had this long-standing gripe with Buffy. Well not so much a gripe. I wanted a nice, normal breakup with no one dying or leaving town. Not that there are werewolves in Neptune, but, it is one of those things you rarely see on tv (How I Met Your Mother is actually one of the places I can point to and say "they kinda did that," with whatshername from the pilot who's now a regular.)

eta: Anybody got a link to the voting. I didn't when I watched it, but I want to now.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2005 4:41:09 am PST #1235 of 5730
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

a nice, normal breakup with no one dying or leaving town. Not that there are werewolves in Neptune, but, it is one of those things you rarely see on tv

The flip side to that is the revolving door bedrooms which you also see on shows, and ups the soapy factor. It does happen -- Friends and BH 90210 are the first to come to mind, but it's early.