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Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Sue - Aug 28, 2005 2:15:13 pm PDT #112 of 5730
hip deep in pie

So was the VM season only 22 episodes? We just had episode 18, and I'm having a hard time seeing how it all gets resolved.


Vonnie K - Aug 28, 2005 2:38:29 pm PDT #113 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Yeap, there are only 22 episodes in season 1. As you can imagine, the episodes 19-22 were hella rollercoaster ride.

Most storylines get resolved, but not all of them. I think the writers did a fine job wrapping things up without them coming across as an asspull, but I know there was a sizable minority of fans who were unhappy with the resolution of the arc.


Sue - Aug 28, 2005 2:41:38 pm PDT #114 of 5730
hip deep in pie

So far, it's been working for me. I'm semi-spoiled, but most episode are a surprise.


tiggy - Aug 28, 2005 5:52:23 pm PDT #115 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

but I know there was a sizable minority of fans who were unhappy with the resolution of the arc.

I was semi-unhappy with the resolution of the murder, but i didn't think it was an ass-pull so much as RT just changing his mind.


Polter-Cow - Aug 28, 2005 5:57:44 pm PDT #116 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

He says he didn't. In fact, he said if spoilers got out about the killer, he was going to change it to Duncan. (Whitefonting for Sue.)


tiggy - Aug 28, 2005 6:00:54 pm PDT #117 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

sorry, but i can't see it. did he or did he not give an interview at the beginning of the season saying that if we watched the pilot we would have all the answers we would need to name the killer. couple with that the fact that logan was NOT supposed to be a full time cast member and it just doesn't add up. (also whitefonting to save those who haven't seen the whole season.)

I was shocked to find someone on my flist today that just saw WoCD and had not been spoiled for the KISS!!


Polter-Cow - Aug 28, 2005 6:08:43 pm PDT #118 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

did he or did he not give an interview at the beginning of the season saying that if we watched the pilot we would have all the answers we would need to name the killer.

Heh. That interview. I am having a sinking suspicion that interview doesn't exist. Because I can't find the actual interview anywhere, just people reporting that they read somewhere that he said that.

Rob told the cast the identity of the killer when they were filming the second episode. (And that's an interview I did read for myself.)


tiggy - Aug 28, 2005 6:21:17 pm PDT #119 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Rob told the cast the identity of the killer when they were filming the second episode.

I know for a fact that the cast gave interviews towards the end of the season saying they were all trying to figure out who it was and only Kristen had figured it out.


Vonnie K - Aug 28, 2005 6:24:09 pm PDT #120 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Eh. I didn't put much stock in the whole "introduced in the pilot" hint. And if RT was planning Logan to be the murderer and changed his mind later, then I'm sort of grateful that he did. There were A LOT of people in the fannish circle who were wedded to the idea of Lianne Mars as a killer (I did think similarly at one point) and got disappointed when that speculation fell through, but I think we had a pretty solid build-up for the reveal of the killer's identity.

But as far as emotional whammy went, nothing beats "A Trip to the Dentist", which is probably my favorite VM episode of the season, despite my quibbles with some of Logan and Veronica characterizations


Polter-Cow - Aug 28, 2005 6:26:00 pm PDT #121 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I know for a fact that the cast gave interviews towards the end of the season saying they were all trying to figure out who it was and only Kristen had figured it out.

Right. I know this too. And they were big fat liars.

If you e-mail me, I have one other piece of information to contribute (it's from an MI.net interview we haven't posted yet).