I tell you I have this theory. It goes where, you're the one who's not my sister. Cuz mom adopted you from a shoe box full of baby howler monkeys, and never told you cuz it could hurt your delicate baby feelings.

Dawn ,'Selfless'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Gris - Nov 17, 2005 2:05:08 pm PST #1047 of 5730
Hey. New board.

Whoa, that episode was awesome. I also loved the song at the end.

The party at Gia's was painfully painful. And what's up with them and their boy kid? And why did the mother move like I've always imagined the aliens in The Puppet Masters (book, not movie) moving? So freaky and non-human-like.

I also loved the Couch Baron shout-out, for those TWOP readers among us. "I was thinking "awkward" but 'scram' works, too." Heh.


victor infante - Nov 17, 2005 4:00:24 pm PST #1048 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

And actually, the most significant clue as to the "who sabotaged the bus" and "who killed Felix the gang member" was dropped this episode -- the conversation with Woody and Keith. Somehow, and I'm not sure how exactly yet, this is all tied in to Woody's attempt to incorporate Neptune into a city.

Oddly, this is a political process I've lived through, when my old county unincorporated territory of South Laguna got incorporated into Laguna Beach. (And where was MTV when THAT was happening, I ask you? They missed gold. Gold I tell you!)

But seriously, with the real estate theme running through the season, and Woody's talk of tax incentives, et al, I think someone's got a lot tied up in shady real estate deals that'll make a fortune if Neptune "secedes" from the surrounding area. Judging from my own experience, it's a hastle and expense a lot of people might not want, but escalating class conflicts could push things a different direction.

None of which, however, explains the bus. If it is the mayor, then why would he want to kill his dorky daughter. Did she know something? Still, not enough information.

Except that Logan totally taped a dead rat to the bottom of the bus to stink it up.

Also, "Ah, did I hurt your feeling?" BWAH!


BartlebyFink - Nov 17, 2005 5:12:24 pm PST #1049 of 5730
One Hot Burrito!

Logan did the rat?


BartlebyFink - Nov 17, 2005 5:13:06 pm PST #1050 of 5730
One Hot Burrito!

Wait, that makes total sense. Seeing as how he's coming away from the bus as everyone is getting on it. Damn, wish I could have thought of that.


sumi - Nov 17, 2005 5:21:09 pm PST #1051 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

It totally does!

Plus, I believe that he is on the school newspaper so would have been invited on the trip -- but cose to skip it.


tina f. - Nov 17, 2005 5:26:17 pm PST #1052 of 5730

Hmm. The rat taping doesn't seem like a very Loganish thing to do without Dick being in on it, too. It makes sense space and chronology wise though.

I feel height-of-my-Buffy-psychosis love for this show right now. The last episode exceeded my expectations in just about every arena.

Something about Gia's family's interaction made me feel bad for Woody (that's the Mayor's name, yes?) Like he genuinely wanted his kids to have normal lives but knew they didn't maybe - it was just a vague sense of pity for him. And RT's writing of moms continues to take us to new areas of craxy (though at least with Meg's family the central big bad was the dad). And dark!Lamb backstory - so unexpected and great.

And Duncan and Veronica aren't clinging to their attempts at rosy normalness all that tightly anymore. Not so much that they can't fixate on past relationships right in front of each other.

Loved loved the music at the end. Dick is the ick. And yay for Big Lebowski love!


Kalshane - Nov 17, 2005 6:06:19 pm PST #1053 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

The party at Gia's was painfully painful.

I was disappointed Veronica didn't have a scathing retort to tatoo-chick, since she's always been quick to respond to verbal slights in the past.


JoeCrow - Nov 17, 2005 6:22:30 pm PST #1054 of 5730
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

1. Ordinarily, Logan makes me want to hit him in the face with an axe.

1a. He is, in no way, alone in generating this feeling. It's probably a good thing I no longer carry an axe with me.

2. For a brief shining moment, Logan was my favorite character in the world. See: "Aw, did I hurt your feeling?" and "When the milk stops being free, I stop drinking it." Bliss...

3. Charisma Carpenter is 58 pounds of hot in a 3 pound bag.


sumi - Nov 17, 2005 6:25:15 pm PST #1055 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

I love how CC's character is so incredibly skanky, with like, no redeeming characteristics.


arby - Nov 17, 2005 6:52:26 pm PST #1056 of 5730
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

God, loved, loved, LOVED this episode!! Also? I was soooo feelin' the LoVe - "at least I got to enjoy asking you to help me" (/para) was so fucking cute I could not even stand it. Woobie! Last night I was making an ass out of myself singing "I love Lo-gan!" to the tune of "I Want Candy". His put-down of Kendall was just excellent in every way, and at the very end he even threw her a bone (heh) by being nice. Having Logan staying in the hotel room is just awkward-gold!

About the A-plot - it was pretty good too, Lamb being a woobie was excellent (if not entirely unexpected) but I was too busy squeeing like a ridiculous fangirl over Logan (and Logan & Veronica) to really focus on it. Did like Duncan and Kendall's maybe-liasion, and Duncan in the black turtleneck was a pleasantly hot surprise.

One thing I did notice - when Duncan was retrieving Meg's evidence of Grace's abuse from the vent - was I having deja vu all over again or was the dialog between him and V exactly the same as last season when V was retrieving Lilly's tapes? For a minute I thought I had gone craxy. Maybe someone who's just watched all of last year in a marathon could tell me. (Speaking of which, must. get. DVD's!)