Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Sep 03, 2005 4:15:14 pm PDT #4480 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The only thing worrying me is that so many of the victims are poor they're likely to be pushed aside. They can't afford DNA testing on their own, and the general corruption of NOLA and the screw-the-poor attitude of Dubya and Co. worries me.

I don't think it's ever the obligation of the families to identify bodies.

However, let's be blunt. The Jonestown massacre (yeah, okay, 20 years ago) resulted in 1,000 deaths, of which 400 were buried in a mass grave in Oakland because they couldn't be identified. Chances are pretty high that with the flooding and the heat, there are going to be a lot of unidentifiable bodies.

God help their families.

And I'm still waiting to hear that the people in the rural towns in Mississippi are getting help. Those people are without power, gas, water, food, and so many trees are down they can't get anywhere for help.


le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 4:21:57 pm PDT #4481 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, we've got thousands of people dead, because of PAPERWORK. It's like the punchline to a really bad joke.

INEXCUSABLE.

I want impeachment hearings.


le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 4:24:25 pm PDT #4482 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Anne Rice's open letter:

[link]


Steph L. - Sep 03, 2005 4:26:49 pm PDT #4483 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Anne Rice's open letter:

Looks like she actually succumbed to an editor. t /catty


le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 4:30:38 pm PDT #4484 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

this is a fuckload of people who relocated to TEXAS.

More than 120,000 refugees were in 97 shelters in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and dozens of smaller cities across the vast state, Perry's office said, with another 100,000 in hotels and motels. Uncounted more were in churches or private homes.


P.M. Marc - Sep 03, 2005 4:32:07 pm PDT #4485 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My dear lord.

Every time I think it cannot get worse, it does. I'm sick to my stomach.


brenda m - Sep 03, 2005 4:32:53 pm PDT #4486 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

This is a tiny thing, but nice to read. Symphonies around the country reach out to displaced musicians: [link]


bon bon - Sep 03, 2005 4:34:45 pm PDT #4487 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

National Guard troops from New Mexico were ready to go to Louisiana on Sunday -- the day before the hurricane hit -- but they couldn't be mobilized until the PAPERWORK ARRIVED FROM WASHINGTON, which it did....ON THURSDAY.

That's incredible. On CNN on Friday Lott was arguing with Anderson Cooper about the speed of the National Guard response-- that they're not on base, need to get their shit together, etc. So they need a 72 hour gear up time-- how is that possible? How can we seriously expect a three-day time period for emergency response?

More relevant, however, if they knew that it would take three days to mobilize, there's no reason why they should have been mobilized any later than Sunday, and they could have been mobilized Friday. Sunday the city was evacuated. The Guard always does disaster relief. There was no question they would be needed.

This appears to be the worst failure of federal government possibly ever.


Consuela - Sep 03, 2005 4:36:59 pm PDT #4488 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

A friend of mine works for Starbucks in their corporate offices. They're finding places and jobs for all Starbucks employees in the hurricane zone. It's, well, it's something. And good on them.


Trudy Booth - Sep 03, 2005 4:41:52 pm PDT #4489 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's, well, it's something. And good on them.

Hopefully it's a precedent, you know? They pride themselves on treating their barristas decently (health insurance, things like that) but maybe even places that don't will be inspired to make similar offers.

It could help with the refugee situation a LOT. Towns could help famalies establish themselves that much more easily if they already had jobs lined up. It'll be sad for people to be so far flung, but its going to be a long time before everyone can go back home anyway.