We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Sep 03, 2005 4:34:45 pm PDT #4487 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

National Guard troops from New Mexico were ready to go to Louisiana on Sunday -- the day before the hurricane hit -- but they couldn't be mobilized until the PAPERWORK ARRIVED FROM WASHINGTON, which it did....ON THURSDAY.

That's incredible. On CNN on Friday Lott was arguing with Anderson Cooper about the speed of the National Guard response-- that they're not on base, need to get their shit together, etc. So they need a 72 hour gear up time-- how is that possible? How can we seriously expect a three-day time period for emergency response?

More relevant, however, if they knew that it would take three days to mobilize, there's no reason why they should have been mobilized any later than Sunday, and they could have been mobilized Friday. Sunday the city was evacuated. The Guard always does disaster relief. There was no question they would be needed.

This appears to be the worst failure of federal government possibly ever.


Consuela - Sep 03, 2005 4:36:59 pm PDT #4488 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

A friend of mine works for Starbucks in their corporate offices. They're finding places and jobs for all Starbucks employees in the hurricane zone. It's, well, it's something. And good on them.


Trudy Booth - Sep 03, 2005 4:41:52 pm PDT #4489 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's, well, it's something. And good on them.

Hopefully it's a precedent, you know? They pride themselves on treating their barristas decently (health insurance, things like that) but maybe even places that don't will be inspired to make similar offers.

It could help with the refugee situation a LOT. Towns could help famalies establish themselves that much more easily if they already had jobs lined up. It'll be sad for people to be so far flung, but its going to be a long time before everyone can go back home anyway.


dw - Sep 03, 2005 4:42:44 pm PDT #4490 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

BTW, story on our local NPR said that Snohomish County (one north of Seattle) is expecting to receive refugees, but they haven't had confirmation yet.


le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 4:43:23 pm PDT #4491 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

All of the lower 48 should, IMO.


Ginger - Sep 03, 2005 4:49:01 pm PDT #4492 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

There's also an effort started by Southern writers to get books and magazines to refugees and support displaced writers: [link]


le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 4:49:13 pm PDT #4493 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

FEMA turned away a flotilla of 500 rescue boats on Wednesday morning.

Uh, WTF? If the head of FEMA is not fired, I will lose it. Time to write my Senators and Congresspersons.

[link]


DavidS - Sep 03, 2005 5:00:59 pm PDT #4494 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If the head of FEMA is not fired, I will lose it.

Oh, I think Brown is definitely toast, and Chertoff will probably "step aside." Not that it'll mean a damn thing, but that's the fallout I expect.


DavidS - Sep 03, 2005 5:03:00 pm PDT #4495 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Strega! I got the Slow Bob! It's still incredibly inventive and odd and cool.


Allyson - Sep 03, 2005 5:21:05 pm PDT #4496 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

President Clinton just called into Larry King Live.

His voice is unbelievably comforting. I wish I wish I wish...