I think the answer is to put a space after the subfolder name and not before the word "subfolder", if that makes sense

Doesn't work for my brain, since the folder name has no space appended--and shouldn't. It's just returning a database field and isn't logical. However, checking to see *if* there is a subfolder name before the display and adjusting accordingly is the way I was going to go.

As for the removal of the red bar, it was to address the people who found it too much up there. With the folders, it's too busy for me. I was thinking maybe a maroon underline, or something like that.

However, checking to see *if* there is a subfolder name before the display and adjusting accordingly is the way I was going to go.

Makes sense.

This site has lots of free icons. (The folders are under "system icons")

You could try the underline in place of the Discussion Threads bar. The problem with removing the Subfolders bar in any fashion is that then the Site Administration bar looks wrong.

You could try the underline in place of the Discussion Threads bar. The problem with removing the Subfolders bar in any fashion is that then the Site Administration bar looks wrong.

I like this suggestion.

It's interesting that on the icon site, they use a horizontal triangle to deliniate folders: [link] , which would be my first choice.

Plain folder

'Nother plain folder

I like the triangle idea too, Tom. Maybe I'll change it to the board's popular blood-red color?

You could also use [link] instead of a GIF.

Actually, with an icon to the left of the folders, why do we even need a "Subfolders" heading? I would put the Discussion Threads heading inside a blood-red bar at the top, like it used to be. Beneath that, list the folders with an icon to the left of them, effectively indenting the folder names. Then immediately below that, list the rest of the threads.

This also solves the issue of whether to call them subfolders or folders (psst -- I prefer folders). With the formatting above, they're not called anything!

If the folder names look weird so close to the rest of the threads, then maybe have a hozizontal rule or something, but I don't see the need for a whole heading thingie.