Why couldn't Giles have shackles like any self-respecting bachelor?

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Aug 19, 2005 7:52:33 am PDT #9416 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Astley could project. The radio played "Together Forever" about the time of my original post. And it wasn't that his voice was particularly deep, or black. But he projected a commanding voice, which is a quality I'd put in the "butch" category.

His appearance wasn't particularly butch (especially when he let his hair grow around 1990), but I'd call him metrosexual before metrosexual became cool. And "metrosexual" generally ranks ahead of "uses mascara regularly" on the butch scale.


juliana - Aug 19, 2005 7:56:17 am PDT #9417 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

His appearance wasn't particularly butch (especially when he let his hair grow around 1990), but I'd call him metrosexual before metrosexual became cool.

It was smooth. I remember my mom saying he looked kind of Motown.


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 7:56:59 am PDT #9418 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But he projected a commanding voice, which is a quality I'd put in the "butch" category.

Ooh, Nina Simone's gonna whup your ass.


kat perez - Aug 19, 2005 7:58:31 am PDT #9419 of 10002
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I don't particularly get the whole "black" voice thing anyway. There are too many singers of different races who have what might be traditionally thought of as "black voices" (Mariah is one, Taylor Dayne, Anastacia, Teena Marie, The Righteous Brothers, etc.) for that to hold much water with me. I just seem to recall that during the Astley popularity phase there was a lot of "He's a skinny white boy, but he sounds black!" going on.

I think Astley is too dorky looking to be a metrosexual. The ears, the goofy dance. . .


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 7:59:07 am PDT #9420 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Spandau Ballet -- now they were some metrosexuals.


Lee - Aug 19, 2005 8:00:38 am PDT #9421 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Spandau Ballet

Whatever happened to them? IIRC, they were in one movie and got good reviews, but I don't remember anything past that.


Sue - Aug 19, 2005 8:03:22 am PDT #9422 of 10002
hip deep in pie

I think the Kemp brothers are still acting. I saw Martin Kemp as a thug in some British thing not so long ago.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 19, 2005 8:04:17 am PDT #9423 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Is metro- the right prefix for them? I know at least one of the Kemps has come out, and my overall impression of the band was that the groupies' parentss had nothing to fear concerning their daughters.


Jars - Aug 19, 2005 8:12:24 am PDT #9424 of 10002

Martin Kemp was in Eastenders for a few years. No idea what he's up to now. They're probably getting back together to tour, like every other 80's band with at least one surviving member. Not that I'm complaining.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 19, 2005 8:20:11 am PDT #9425 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I was about to say that I ALWAYS thought Rick Astley was black until this very minute. I even had a very detailed picture of him in my head.

Then I realized I was mixing him up with Rick James.